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    Foxconn and Linux

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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    thats just rediculas!!!

    thats got to be worthy of a front page news item surely?

    looks like i'm going to be avoiding foxconn now then (OBV it's not possible to avoid foxconn completly due to the amount of stuff they have on other peoples mobos)
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    this is *common behaviour* - several companies provide purposefully broken ACPI tables which break on Linux. it's one of the main reasons linux hardware support is often a case of "mostly" rather than "fully" (per-device workarounds needed)

    i was under the impression most kernels identified themselves as Windows XP when querying ACPI data, specifically to avoid these kinds of problems.

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    jms@osc-franzibald:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24$ grep -r ACPI_OS_NAME *
    drivers/acpi/utilities/utglobal.c:	{"_OS_", ACPI_TYPE_STRING, ACPI_OS_NAME},
    include/acpi/acconfig.h:#define ACPI_OS_NAME                    "Microsoft Windows NT"

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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Interesting Directhex - I had a ASRock that wouldn't boot without acpi=off and a few other ACPI related voodoo. No idea if it was caused by this though, never really looked into it and the board died soon after putting Ubuntu on it
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Indeed, there's a number of motherboard manufacturers that go out of their way to break standards by using OS specific hacks in their BIOSes and ACPI implementations. Just as well Linux completely ignores the BIOS otherwise we'd be screwed entirely.
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Is there any potential advantage that I'm missing here, or is it purely to screw Linux users?
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    Is there any potential advantage that I'm missing here, or is it purely to screw Linux users?
    detecting "linux" and sending known garbage data (whilst linux works fine with the data earmarked for vista)?

    it's *purely malicious*

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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    detecting "linux" and sending known garbage data (whilst linux works fine with the data earmarked for vista)?

    it's *purely malicious*
    but why is it being done?

    do the motherboard manufacturers have stakes in microsoft?

    or a personal vendetta against Tovalds?

    surely they have nothing to gain from cutting out alternative O/S's? unless a subsidy is being made by microsoft? in which case, surely that would break trading regulations? or am i just looking too far into it?



    edit: unsure of how legit this is (but should stand... as it was used as court evidence)... but a while ago now.... HERE
    they don't seem to be best of friends with the better business bureau either.... HERE
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    Well they could claim that they don't 'support' linux, in whatever twisted form they like, and it's likely a court would agree with them, unless the prosecuting party can get a strong argument from a few computer scientists to point out the obvious fact that operating systems are suppose to support the hardware, not the other way around. The problem is, there's so many companies doing it, covering so many different models, that it would take a lifetime and a fortune to chase down all the companies without some kind of mass anti-trust trial.

    As to why they do it?.. *shrug* who knows, maybe Microsoft softens them up, maybe they genuinely think that Linux would be 'expensive' to 'support'.
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    Re: Foxconn and Linux

    custompc covered it http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/60452...x-running.html

    i think hexus should cover it too, cos this aint on

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