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    Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new hd.

    Hi,

    I have just recently swapped out my sisters hardisk for a new one as she was getting stop errors (0x0000007A) and (kernel_data_inpage) erorors....

    Ok so now I have the new hardrive installed and I'm tryig to load Win XP .....only its an upgrade disk, so the message I get after the (press F8) agreement screen is:

    "Setup cannot find a previous version of Windows installed on your computer. To continue, setup needs to verify that you qualify to use this upgrade product.

    Please insert one of the following Windows product CDs into the CD rom drive: Windows XP home edition (full version), Windows Xp Pro (full version), Windos 200 Pro, Windows Millenium, Windows 98 etc blah, blah, blah.



    • When the CD is in the drive, press enter.
    • To quit setup, press F3."



    Fine, so I get my sisters old Windows Millenium disk out which is an OEM disk that came with her machine, and put that in and press enter .............. but to no effect, some message appears saying that it does not recognise the disk!?! ......

    ....so just to test, I put MY OEM version of Win XP (full) in the drive and it takes it without a hitch, obviously I cant use that disk because it's tied to my own machine, so can only get as far as the serial input screen....... but at least i know its takes it.

    If it takes my OEM disk of XP, why doesn't it recognise / take the OEM disk of Millenium as proof of previous Operating sytem ????


    Am I just going to have to buy a full OEM version of XP (£60.23 inc vat) like mine?? ...or what??
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114048...roduct_reviews

    ...the machine is a bit old so will not take Vista ... my Sister will be getting a new machine soon anyway, but just wants to get the current one back up and working again for now, with XP.

    It also wouldn't take the millenium disk on its own either so that I could afterwards just use the upgrade XP disk, but anyway i've formatted the disk to NTFS now using my OEM XP disk.

    ...any help on forcing it to take the Millenium disk as proof, so I can just use the blasted Xp upgrade disk to carry on the installation would be great. Never had this problem till made this hd upgrade, thought this issue only happens when you change MB or CPU.


    Probably will need to grab that OEM XP disk off ebuyer, but I just need to know for sure.
    Many thanks for any help.
    Last edited by DIGITALrain™; 03-08-2008 at 09:05 PM. Reason: title too long. (still too long)

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    it might not recognise a manufacturer-modified ME disk

    does ME install? you could run an upgrade from within

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Hi directhex =],

    Nope I thought that, but ME does not install, it just wants me to take the disk out and reeboot. (weird) ...plus I've now formatted to NTFS while testing my OEM XP disk, so I dont think I can now anyway.

    I heard after researching the problem that it is supposed to take the (ME) OEM disk as proof of previous OS .......It took my XP one fine! .....both disks are from Mesh comuters.

    It just doesn't like/recognise this particular OEM ME disk, I know i'm missing something ...its annoying.
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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    are you sure thats a valid upgrade path? I thought it was NT based eg NT -- > Windows 2000 --> XP
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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Hi jay =]

    yep ... ...well....it has Windows millenuim in the list of OS's I can use as proof of previous OS's ...

    Upgrade paths to XP:
    http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/upgrade.php

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Not the best solution but you can use a linux distro like ubuntu until you get the new PC

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Hmmmmm ....baring in mind its my little sisters PC =] ....she'll not like it.
    .......thanks for the idea tho Sim.
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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    buying the OEM XP full version off ebuyer will be fine I'm sure...its just I get tormented buy little problems like these once in a while I cant solve ...cant rest till I know =]

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Don't buy it! Its not worth it for that computer! OEM is tied to the computer so its a waste... spending £60 for an OS on a PC that is worth £50 doesn't make sense

    IMO you should just use ME or upgrade the PC earlier

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    How does Windows see it's installed on a different computer with the serial?
    My computer uses the exact same windows as my dad's PC, used the same CD for everything, I already re-installed windows on my own PC like 3 times, and I lost count on the PC in the living room lol
    Never had any problems it not accepting the CD key or windows not being able to be activated...

    All this PC's run on the same inet cable though, they are all connected so maybe that's why I don't got problems?

    If your sis her PC is in the same house, id say just give it a try with your XP lol or there must be something I don't know which is making it able for me to use the same XP on different PC's o.O

    PS: Maybe my statement is a bit dumb since I dunno wtf OEM mean =p

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    This XP upgrade, is it retail or OEM?

    Have you considered phoneing support asking why its refusing to recogonise a valid upgrade path (explaing that you're having problems installing ME).

    Actually, if your having problems installing ME on a PC that used to install it fine, have you considered running Memtest86+ next time you go out for a while, leaving it running for as long as you can. I wouldn't be suprised if you found some issues.
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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Quote Originally Posted by NovaSphere View Post
    How does Windows see it's installed on a different computer with the serial?
    My computer uses the exact same windows as my dad's PC, used the same CD for everything, I already re-installed windows on my own PC like 3 times, and I lost count on the PC in the living room lol
    Never had any problems it not accepting the CD key or windows not being able to be activated...

    All this PC's run on the same inet cable though, they are all connected so maybe that's why I don't got problems?

    If your sis her PC is in the same house, id say just give it a try with your XP lol or there must be something I don't know which is making it able for me to use the same XP on different PC's o.O

    PS: Maybe my statement is a bit dumb since I dunno wtf OEM mean =p
    microsoft will know whenever the same key is being shown as being used by multiple hardware hashes (a unique ID is generated based on the hardware on your PC, if that shows multiple values frequently then your key will be blocked & all machines essentially killswitched)

    it's also a violation of the license, and essentially theft

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    microsoft will know whenever the same key is being shown as being used by multiple hardware hashes (a unique ID is generated based on the hardware on your PC, if that shows multiple values frequently then your key will be blocked & all machines essentially killswitched)

    it's also a violation of the license, and essentially theft
    So basicly I'm doing something illigal with installing Windows XP on both my own and my dad's PC? lol

    Interresting ;o

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    Don't buy it! Its not worth it for that computer! OEM is tied to the computer so its a waste... spending £60 for an OS on a PC that is worth £50 doesn't make sense

    IMO you should just use ME or upgrade the PC earlier

    Yeah I know, thing is I dont honestly know how long she's going to take deciding / researching what new computer she wants ...could be a while, so there may still be quite some use left to get out of the old chap yet ......plus a mountain of work related things in between that need sorting soon, which are time critical.

    Cant use the Windows ME, would not except the stupid disc, plus the drive is NTFS now (formatted using my XP OEM disc just to test whether it would actually take an OEM dics at all --- and it does, but only to the serial input screen and no further.)
    ME is the FAT 32 file system.




    Quote Originally Posted by NovaSphere View Post
    How does Windows see it's installed on a different computer with the serial?
    My computer uses the exact same windows as my dad's PC, used the same CD for everything, I already re-installed windows on my own PC like 3 times, and I lost count on the PC in the living room lol
    Never had any problems it not accepting the CD key or windows not being able to be activated...

    All this PC's run on the same inet cable though, they are all connected so maybe that's why I don't got problems?

    If your sis her PC is in the same house, id say just give it a try with your XP lol or there must be something I don't know which is making it able for me to use the same XP on different PC's o.O

    PS: Maybe my statement is a bit dumb since I dunno wtf OEM mean =p

    Nope, only I can use the serial of my OEM XP disc, I did not try to use my serial on her machine with my disc :S .... also trying to use my OEM XP CD with her upgrade retail version of XP serial number, obviously does not work either ...tried it =]

    OEM = (original equipment manufacturer) ....basically its the OS that normally gets sold with a piece of hardware, and is tied to it, unlike the retail version that can be loaded on different machines as long as it is only on one machine at any one time..... or something like that =]

    Yours will be the retail version, + cable sorcery ;-D




    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    This XP upgrade, is it retail or OEM?

    Have you considered phoneing support asking why its refusing to recogonise a valid upgrade path (explaing that you're having problems installing ME).

    Actually, if your having problems installing ME on a PC that used to install it fine, have you considered running Memtest86+ next time you go out for a while, leaving it running for as long as you can. I wouldn't be suprised if you found some issues.

    The Xp upgrade disc is a retail version ...its just the Windows Me recovery disc that is an OEM that I'm trying to use as proof of previous OS that is causing the problem, but should work! ;-[
    As for ringing up Microsoft ...... though i've heard they're about as useful as a cat-flap in an elephant house ..... but yeah i'll be ringing them tomorrow, tho was trying to sort this out without having to ring the plebs ;-P

    It is the change of harware that has caused this issue (new hard drive)
    yeah i've got the memtest soft, but that is what I would have used on the old hardrive with the stop errors / kernel errors issue..... cant see why i would need to use it now ........I dunno, ...tho its another idea .........so thanks.




    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    microsoft will know whenever the same key is being shown as being used by multiple hardware hashes (a unique ID is generated based on the hardware on your PC, if that shows multiple values frequently then your key will be blocked & all machines essentially killswitched)

    it's also a violation of the license, and essentially theft
    yep...

    Many thanks for all these responses.. =]
    1:25 am ...signing off 4 now... =]
    Last edited by DIGITALrain™; 04-08-2008 at 01:43 AM. Reason: typo's

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    The windows 95 install disc works if you get have one around or if they're on ebay, they're fairly. Don't see this as breaking license agreements either since you've got an ME license anyway - it's just a way around the flaw in the disc authentication

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    Re: Problem with OEM WinME as proof of previous OS, so I can load XP Upgd. onto new h

    Quote Originally Posted by nickd_101 View Post
    The windows 95 install disc works if you get have one around or if they're on ebay, they're fairly. Don't see this as breaking license agreements either since you've got an ME license anyway - it's just a way around the flaw in the disc authentication

    Yeah, thanks nickd_101 ....though all is done & dusted now ....went ahead and bought that XP OEM full ....and it installed fine with Sp3 without complaining, like it's supposed to ........ so couldn't give a tinkers cuss about that stupid ME disc now ..........binned it...

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