Ubuntu 8.10 - released

[directhex]

Will do, I thought it was normal behaviour because the USB Flash Drive was the first storage device detected.

Well, I see what you mean, but I'd say if you were installing to SATA from USB, you want your boot sector on SATA. Or at least be given the choice

[pumpman]

installed this on my sons Acer laptop last night, was a bit sceptical at first having read the countless threads of my wireless etc wont work.
Whacked disc in , formatted, put a few details in left to install whilst I made a cuppa, 20 mins later disc popped out, reboot, enter wireless connection details and kaboom it all worked, downloaded adobe flash .deb version so that Iplayer and youtube would work and my son hasnt moaned once about it. It did have vista on it and he would moan about how slow it was, and my weekly scans to get the viri and scumware he had dowloaded will be a dim and distant memory soon.
He is using the IM programme that came with it for his msm conversations can't ask for any more really.
I won't be putting it mine though, its too brown I prefer Suse and Fedora but great all the same.

[PeteSmith]

Does anyone know if the Ubuntu Migration Assistant copies or simply utilizes your existing windows settings. It seems to me it copies your settings, which is fine if your ditching your windows install, but not so useful if your duel booting. Who wants an exact copy of your documents which do not reflect each other when you make changes. Please clarify if i have interepted this correctly or if they do 'sync' with one another.

[cmjrees]

I prefer Suse and Fedora but great all the same.

You prefer SuSE and Fedora, so is that KDE you prefer? You could try Kubuntu then, if you're interested but don't like GNOME....

[aidanjt]

You prefer SuSE and Fedora, so is that KDE you prefer? You could try Kubuntu then, if you're interested but don't like GNOME....

Contrary to popular belief, other distros do Gnome packages just as well or 'better' than Ubuntu. Remember, apt isn't a system configuration utility, even though it has been bent into one. Every distro has their ups and downs, and it's up to the individual to determine which distro is more ideal for them.

[directhex]

Does anyone know if the Ubuntu Migration Assistant copies or simply utilizes your existing windows settings. It seems to me it copies your settings, which is fine if your ditching your windows install, but not so useful if your duel booting. Who wants an exact copy of your documents which do not reflect each other when you make changes. Please clarify if i have interepted this correctly or if they do 'sync' with one another.

It copies. I don't know if there have ever been plans for some kind of sync mode. Try filing a wishlist bug at launchpad.net

[Zadock]

Thinking of sticking this on my eee but it seems there are still one or two issues relating to hardware e.g. the webcam

I'm also a bit worried about the lifespan of the SSD, I already know how to tweak windows to minimise the writes to it e.g. turn off virtual page memory.

Probably give it a month or so and see whats what then.

[Champman99]

Installed on my spare server yesterday. I haven't really kept up with any new features. I just assumed there would be better drivers etc, newer is usually better right?

[Zadock]

I have this installed and working, mostly, on my Eee now. I have 1.2 Gb left on the 4Gb (faster) SSD, which is a lot more than I had with XP. I can post links to the guide I followed if anyone is interested?

The only annoying thing in installation is that your can't see the "next/ back/ cancel" buttons in the installation GUI but I found that: Tab'ing, hitting the right arrow key twice and hitting enter worked! Once its installed its fine and seems to find the Eee's native resolution just find.

[lodore]

Hey everyone,
Ubuntu is a decent linux distro i agree. the problem is people will start thinking ubuntu=linux and if they dont like ubuntu they will give up and go back to windows or buy a mac.
if you are ever reccomending linux to friends or family explain that linux is just a base and there is lots of different distributions based on it. then of course point them to distrowatch. also name a few of the easy to use distros such as mandriva,ubuntu,opensuse,mint etc.

[directhex]

Hey everyone,
Ubuntu is a decent linux distro i agree. the problem is people will start thinking ubuntu=linux and if they dont like ubuntu they will give up and go back to windows or buy a mac.
if you are ever reccomending linux to friends or family explain that linux is just a base and there is lots of different distributions based on it. then of course point them to distrowatch. also name a few of the easy to use distros such as mandriva,ubuntu,opensuse,mint etc.

Be wary of "cold" evangelism, i.e. actively preaching to people about things they might not actually care about. It tends to get an equally cold reception.

Go for warmer evangelism - i.e. when they say "man, this thing about my computer pisses me off", then say "well, that's not a problem for me". Let them come to you, not the reverse. And at that point, they'll likely want a specific recommendation rather than a site with 583 different options on it

[Zadock]

Mac? OSX is Linux (just a propriatery one)


Direthex has a good point...

A lot of people won't have heard of linux and some of those that have often think that its geeky and only IT experts can use it. Its the "cold evangelsim" that causes this.

I've managed to convince a few people to use linux recently and I had the most sucess with people who don't use a PC that much, the pc they have is old and all they want to do is look at they're email and have a surf of the net without it chugging. Starts with them moaning and then me saying "well I have this operating system thats designed to run on older hardware...".

Ubuntu has become synonomous with "linux" recently because its had so much publicity. I don't think I would point any of my less PC savvy friend to distrowatch because it would just confuse them because there are so many different distros out there, I would be much more inclined to point them in the direction of Ubuntu or say Mandriva because for the most part these have very mature kernels and there is less chance that something will go wrong.

You are fair in saying that there isn't just ubuntu but I discovered linux about two years ago through ubuntu and as I've gotten more comfortable with it I've had a look at what the other distros have to offer. People need a nice easy introduction to linux in this microsoft dominated world ubuntu does that quite nicely.

[directhex]

Mac? OSX is Linux (just a propriatery one)

Mac OS is based on BSD, not on Linux. some portions of its code come from Linux-centric (but not Linux-specific) projects, e.g. KDE.

[mycarsavw]

A lot of people won't have heard of linux and some of those that have often think that its geeky and only IT experts can use it. Its the "cold evangelsim" that causes this.

Everyone knows *nix users are sandal wearing, egg sandwich eating geeks

[Linus] Torvalds himself will teach a course on "Introductory sandal wearing," placing particular emphasis on sock selection. "Color is so important," Torvalds notes. "You want both socks to share the same color base, and yet it needs to stand out from the pale flesh of a kernel hacker and show off the sandals to their best advantage."

From here http://www.linux.com/articles/53278

[Zadock]

Mac OS is based on BSD, not on Linux. some portions of its code come from Linux-centric (but not Linux-specific) projects, e.g. KDE.

I stand corrected.

Oi! I don't wear sandals and I hate egg sandwiches lol! Besides I'm not an IT professional, I'm an ecologist/ environmental scientist I spend most of my time outside

Why are egg sandwiches the sandwich of the geek? I would have thought they would be higher in fat or be suited to very narrow dietry requirements due to multiple food intolerances?

[mycarsavw]

I stand corrected.

Oi! I don't wear sandals and I hate egg sandwiches lol! Besides I'm not an IT professional, I'm an ecologist/ environmental scientist I spend most of my time outside

Why are egg sandwiches the sandwich of the geek? I would have thought they would be higher in fat or be suited to very narrow dietry requirements due to multiple food intolerances?

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much"

I use linux, I don't like egg sandwiches and I don't own a pair of sandals. Stereotypes, together we can beat them.