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    Anyone used Ruby On Rails 2?

    I tried learning PHP a couple of years ago - after getting to a point where I just started learning database querying etc I got distracted and stopped learning. I find it difficult to pick up the book again and relearning what I done before. However the other day I came across Ruby on Rails - it seems like a pretty easy learning curve and easy to see some physical results. Has anyone used it and would you recommend it as a good entry-level development language? Is it flexible enough to create CMS style websites etc?

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    Re: Anyone used Ruby On Rails 2?

    You could give it a shot and learn it's strengths and weaknesses. Don't expect to remember specifics about any language, after a few months you'll have forgetten most function calls, classes, etc. Unless you spend 16 hours a day, 365 days a year writing code in a particular language, this is completely normal, which is why programmers buy reference books, or otherwise access API/framework reference documentation. Not to mention expending a great amount of effort writing their own documentation.

    Rails is a decent framework for web apps, the question is, what do you want it to do? If you want to slap a web app/website together quick n dirty, then rails is a good match for that. If you want to do intensive data processing, it starts to look much less compelling.
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    Re: Anyone used Ruby On Rails 2?

    RoR is fine for small sites, but a pain in the ass for sites with a few thousand users.

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    Re: Anyone used Ruby On Rails 2?

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    RoR is fine for small sites, but a pain in the ass for sites with a few thousand users.
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    Re: Anyone used Ruby On Rails 2?

    Rails has a fairly easy way to define models, abstracting the database from a relational database setup. If you're using the scaffolding then you can implement some functionality pretty quickly.
    However, you really do have to learn how it wants you to do things, otherwise you will struggle against it trying to do things the way you were thinking of.

    Knowing a little PHP is probably not much help, because the 'Ruby' way of doing things is quite different. It's less of a jolt to either return to PHP, to use classic ASP, or perhaps JSP. The disadvantage there is that they are relatively primitive as web frameworks go, and not so much in demand.

    Currently I'm mainly working in ASP.NET. It don't necessarily think it's an ideal starter framework.

    Ruby's definitely an interesting language, so by all means give it a try. But if you don't like the way it tries to push you into various conventions, then perhaps try JSP or ASP.NET - career-wise they're probably better choices anyway.

    (note, while my main work is ASP.NET for my current personal websites, I've at various points used ASP.NET, Ruby, Zope/Python and more specific web shop applications such as OS Commerce).
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