Sabayon Linux 4.0 - Life just got shinier.

[TAKTAK]

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/images/s...ayon4-beta.png

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/images/s...n_SL4-beta.png

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/images/s...u_SL4-beta.png

More here: http://www.sabayonlinux.org/screenshots (scroll down )

[Zadock]

Looks rather nice... How user friendly is Sabayon? So far I've tried Ubuntu, Linpus, Dream and Mint and I found Mint to be the most user friendly... it practically spoon feeds you but thats quite good if you want to introduce someone to linux who is used to windows I guess.

[directhex]

Looks like a very nice KDE4 theme to me

[format]

Very shiny indeed... I've been wanting to give Linux a try for a while now, might give this a shot.

[TAKTAK]

Looks rather nice... How user friendly is Sabayon? So far I've tried Ubuntu, Linpus, Dream and Mint and I found Mint to be the most user friendly... it practically spoon feeds you but thats quite good if you want to introduce someone to linux who is used to windows I guess.

TBH, my first introduction to linux was back in jan with the eeepc, and i much prefer sabayon over others that i have tried, including buntu, most of the stuff is handled nicely, it's just seeing if they have managed to improve usability as well as the looks.

I'm presuming it is Sabayon 4 instead of 3.6 because it's now using KDE 4 as the desktop manager, or is KDE4 still, how shall i say.... 'quirky' ?

[TAKTAK]

Sabayon v4.0 r1 is now out

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/pages/show/id/68

[Roundabout]

So it's Gentoo with an easier installation, useful applications installed by default and a shiny theme?

I've not used gentoo for quite a few years now. Got a bit fed up of compiling/recompiling things. Also found it tedious having to manually merge configuration files each time I upgraded. I suspect this is probably an issue of the past when gentoo was younger and changing quite rapidly.

Been using Ubuntu for the past couple of years and feel like a change. Leaning towards Arch at the mo though I may try throwing gentoo on to see if I still get geeky pleasure pleasure from watching compiler messages scrolling up the screen

[Jay]

I have used this before (not 4.0) and it was really cool if a little odd to setup at times.

[aidanjt]

So it's Gentoo with an easier installation, useful applications installed by default and a shiny theme?

Well, they used Gentoo as a base for their distro. But they use their own package manager and packages now. Portage is still in there somewhere, but.. yeah.

Also found it tedious having to manually merge configuration files each time I upgraded.

That's nessecery with rolling release distros. There's no non-trivial solution to dealing with config updates without destroying the users configuration, which is clearly unacceptable as well.

I suspect this is probably an issue of the past when gentoo was younger and changing quite rapidly.

It's still an issue, but dispatch-conf and rcs makes it less of an annoyance.

Been using Ubuntu for the past couple of years and feel like a change. Leaning towards Arch at the mo though I may try throwing gentoo on to see if I still get geeky pleasure pleasure from watching compiler messages scrolling up the screen

Arch has stupid and dangerous update handling of the kernel. And also shares Gentoo's issue with config updates.

[Roundabout]

Well, they used Gentoo as a base for their distro. But they use their own package manager and packages now. Portage is still in there somewhere, but.. yeah.

Ah ok, their introduction wiki is a little out of date.

That's nessecery with rolling release distros. There's no non-trivial solution to dealing with config updates without destroying the users configuration, which is clearly unacceptable as well.

It's still an issue, but dispatch-conf and rcs makes it less of an annoyance.

The annoyance I remember was not so much merging in configuration personalisations but that options would change and move to new locations as development went on.

Arch has stupid and dangerous update handling of the kernel.

Can you go into this a little more? I've not heard many downsides mentioned about Arch.

[TAKTAK]

well first impressions aren't looking good...

i can't actually do anything because as soon as i get past GRUB, sabayon insists that the '.' is being depressed constantly...

Tried different KB's and no joy, does it under graphical and text... tis not looking good so far...

edit: looks like kubuntu for me now then...

[aidanjt]

The annoyance I remember was not so much merging in configuration personalisations but that options would change and move to new locations as development went on.

Well, that's non-fixable as well. If upstream decides to change the location of config files, it's best just to get it over and done with, and not leave config files in non-standard locations forever. Since Gentoo is a rolling release, an installation of Gentoo can last over a decade, depending on how important the box is.

Can you go into this a little more? I've not heard many downsides mentioned about Arch.

Not going into much detail about it, but suffice to say, when you do a kernel update in Arch, your modules are instantly broken until you reboot (since the PM nukes the modules dir for the running kernel). There's more to gripe about, but that's a pretty big headache to have for every trivial kernel update.

[TAKTAK]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I was being a complete burk

Volkerball was sat on my keypad pressing the big '.' button

all solved and in sabayon now

weird that it didn't do it in vista too though...