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    Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Ive noticed that websites slow down and create a very laggy/stuttery feel on webpages when scrolling and general loading. Just leads me to believe that they are going away from optimisation....

    Anyone else noticed this?


    (Im assuming I can simply remove v10 by uninstalling from add/remove progs and install 9 again?)
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    When was flash *ever* optimised?
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Flash is a diabolical piece of software.

    Flash 10 is actually pretty good for me, although I'm on Linux x64 so I don't really have a great deal of choice over which version I use.

    What's worse is flash developers who have good creative skills, but no appreciation of how to make an effect not use 100% CPU.
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    touché - bloatware that it is.
    SHould have put, trying to optimise?

    But on another note, do I have to even install it? I always have when Ive formatted etc, but I cant remember what I need it for. I.e. what webpages I use frequently that need it.
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Virtually all of the CS4 class products have been a bit.. pish..
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Sadly, Flash is already optimized up the wazoo - the major reason for the slowness of creating native 64-bit versions is that it's mostly written in assembler. The fact that it doesn't yield any significant gains is because it's simply rotten to the core - one major issue being multiple RGB/CMYK color conversions

    Have the web devs here looked at Silverlight much? It's MUCH better on the ol' CPU with the same things
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    one major issue being multiple RGB/CMYK color conversions
    CMYK? GAHHH *headdesk*

    When will the idiocy end?
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    CMYK? GAHHH *headdesk*

    When will the idiocy end?
    Well, make your choice. You can have crap technology from Adobe, or better technology from ZOMG TEH MICRO$HAFTZ

    Nothing's made people talk about how great Flash is like the thought of Microsoft doing it better

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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo View Post
    Virtually all of the CS4 class products have been a bit.. pish..
    I think the op means Flash Player not the actual program, but although I haven't used the other CS4 products properly, the ones in the Design Premium pack (especially Illustrator, Photoshop CS4 and the new Bridge) are absolutely brilliant.

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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    Have the web devs here looked at Silverlight much? It's MUCH better on the ol' CPU with the same things
    Personally, I'd love to see Silverlight take off and overtake Flash; it really does seem much better the few places I've seen it used.

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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    Well, make your choice. You can have crap technology from Adobe, or better technology from ZOMG TEH MICRO$HAFTZ

    Nothing's made people talk about how great Flash is like the thought of Microsoft doing it better
    The paragim is idiotic and entirely unnessecery, but Silverlight is clearly superior between the two.
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    The paragim is idiotic and entirely unnessecery, but Silverlight is clearly superior between the two.
    Well, another thing that makes me giggle is how people talk about AJAX as a Microsoft-free solution... AJAX is a patented MSIE extension which other browsers cloned support for

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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Wasn't AJAX actually invented because of the microsoft office outlook team?

    They wanted to make OWA, so invented some technologies, then got promptly ignored, brain drained, and google filled the void, and then some.
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    I don't know if thats right, but I heard that as well.

    OWA and the old Microsoft CRM team were the first to create full rich application interfaces in a standard web browser. And I think they did a really good job. CRM especially, it was just that little bit more advanced than OWA 2003. Though OWA 2008 looks really good from the videos I've seen of it.

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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    Quote Originally Posted by magneticman View Post
    I think the op means Flash Player not the actual program, but although I haven't used the other CS4 products properly, the ones in the Design Premium pack (especially Illustrator, Photoshop CS4 and the new Bridge) are absolutely brilliant.
    I've got Photoshop CS4 Extended at home, and use Design Premium CS4 at work.. They're certainly a lot slower in a production environment then CS3..

    New features are great, unfortunately it's all slow and buggy, and prone to crashes.

    Hence my comment that if the player is like the other CS4 programs, I'm not surprised it's a drain on resources, and a bit bug-ridden..

    Check out the pro forums, it's full of people complaining that the release quality of Adobe software is steadily getting worse with every release..

    It's a great shame as I really love Photoshop, and it could be *so* much better if it hadn't been rushed to market.
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    Re: Adobe flash 10 - bulky&slower than 9?

    It's an unfortunate side-effect of software that bundles every feature including the kitchen sink, each line of code represents a potential for another bug, on average (assuming a team of highly skilled programmes) there should be at least 1 bug for every 100 lines of code. Then there's issues of complexity management. Ideally as much functionality should be split into seperate programmes, or at least seperate pluggable modules. But we don't see much of that at all.
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