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    OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Sun 8th March 2009.

    Vista 64 bit is running sweet as a nut, allbeit a nut with proper sound card... 4gig of ram installed....

    Page File goes off now, cos my Raptor cranks it's arse to dust every time I boot up at the mo.

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    it's off, and after a reboot, the raptor is still grinding it's arse to pieces for 30 seconds.

    weird.

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    I have always thought that running without a page file was a bad idea, when I tried running without for a while I constantly got programs moaning about not having one, other than that had no real performance increase or decrease.
    I have however seen my performance increase through spreading my pf over all 3 of my drives (1gb each) things go much smoother now.
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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Dragoon View Post
    ... had no real performance increase or decrease.
    Are you using monitoring software like Everest ?

    If yes, what does it say under Memory Utilization, before / after ?

    @ Zak33, have you switched off indexing too ?
    I know that is very controverse, but how about just for testing ?

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    One way to check is to go to the Administrative Tools, then Reliability and Performance Monitor. You can check what is utilizing the Disk at that location.

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Cov View Post
    One way to check is to go to the Administrative Tools, then Reliability and Performance Monitor. You can check what is utilizing the Disk at that location.
    gonna try that right now

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Cov View Post
    @ Zak33, have you switched off indexing too ?
    I know that is very controverse, but how about just for testing ?
    no....I haven;t. How do I do that?

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    It was quite a time ago, but I think running without resulted in a fair bit more memory being used, and single digit percent performance increase in benches, whereas spliting it up over 3 drives gets pretty much the same performance (haven't compared benches like this as I don't remember the original figures, plus I have oc'ed the gfx card and found a couple of hundred mhz in the processor since then so wouldn't be a like for like comparison) but my system will never pause for a second or so when getting something from the pf anymore, not that it did that much anyway, but now it has never done it.
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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    I think prefetch is to blame for all the read/writes. After using 3dmark recently, I've noticed Vista is reading the entire 1.2GB 3dmark.dat file after it boots up. I'm currently testing with no pagefile and can't see anything being placed into memory. After five minutes I'm now down to virtually 0% HD access tho.

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    right, it did it again on reboot, so I took a screeny, though I have no idea what I'm looking at.


    Any ideas? Cos, for a PC with no pagefile, that's a lot of HDD activity!!

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    @ Zak33

    Turn off Vista’s search indexing:

    1. Start › Indexing options › modify › show all locations › double click users in summary of selected locations › uncheck users directory › double click start menu in the summary of selected locations › uncheck start menu directory › ok

    2. Start › system › services › windows search › disable › restart

    3. Start › computer › right click c drive › properties › untick Index this drive for faster searching

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Disable system restore

    Start › backup & restore center › Create a restore point or change settings › turn system restore off

    Enable advanced performance for Sata HDD

    Start › device manager › disk drives › double click › policies tab › enable advanced performance

    Disable hibernation

    Hibernation cost you approx 1 GB of your hard drive space, here is how to get it back:
    Start › cmd › type: powercfg -h off › enter

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Turn off Remote Differential Compression

    Control panel › select: programs › turn windows features on or off › uncheck remote differential compression › ok

    Disable unneeded start-up programs from loading

    Start › msconfig / system configuration › services

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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    Page File goes off now, cos my Raptor cranks it's arse to dust every time I boot up at the mo.
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    it's off, and after a reboot, the raptor is still grinding it's arse to pieces for 30 seconds.
    Why would you expect less HDD activity on clean booting, after only disabling the pagefile?

    The activity relating to the pagefile during startup would be it being checked to see if it contains a memory dump from a bugcheck, resizing if its current size is greater than the mininum size configured, and then as a result of hard page faults caused by a shortage of physical pages.

    On a system with 4GB RAM there shouldn't be any issue with a shortage of physical pages, so that would leave pagefile activity only as specific API calls or ageing (pages on the standby or modified lists getting hard faulted to the page file) - not something I would expect to be occurring in the first few minutes of the OS's uptime.

    Suspend-to-RAM rather than shutdown and you should have a lot less HDD activity in general, as you won't be starting with an empty system cache or doing system initialization routines on resume.
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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Adams View Post
    您为什么在只使pagefile失去能力以后会期待在干净的孕穗的较少HDD活动, ?

    与pagefile相关的活动在起动期间会假如是被检查看见它是否包含从bugcheck的信息转储,重量尺寸,如果它的当前大小比配置的mininum大小伟大,然后由于物理页短缺造成的坚硬页面错 误。

    在与4GB那里 RAM 不应该 的一个系统; t是与物理页短缺的所有问题,因此将留下pagefile活动,只有具体API叫或老化(在得到的待命者或修改过的名单的页艰苦非难对页式文件) -不是我会期望发生在OS'的最初的少数分钟内的事; s正常运行时间。

    暂停对RAM而不是停工和您应该一般来说,有很多较少HDD活动作为您won' t开始以一个空的系统贮藏所或做着在简历的系统初始化惯例
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    Re: OK, the Page File is being switched off

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Adams View Post
    Why would you expect less HDD activity on clean booting, after only disabling the pagefile?
    i thought that was what the activity was... it's not, clearly

    live n learn

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