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    Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    I keep getting annoyed with the fact microsoft made windows 7 a compulsory drivers must be digitally sighned

    Is there a way around it? i keep running in to problems with it with all sorts off stuff i buy

    there is the latest

    i bought this webcam

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=170310793623

    i got the drivers for it for 64bit vista but they are not digitally sighned, any way around it?
    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    now that i think about the word "throttled" in a certain light... its not so far different to strangled really

    our boiler broke so we has no heating or hot water, this is the bloody result ^^

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Things have to be signed then people will stop blaming Windows for being **** when its actually cheap/crap hardware with crap/lazy driver writing people...

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Hope this is fragcrap.

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    yeah not helpfull lol

    i only bought the cheap webcam to see if its really got night vision
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    now that i think about the word "throttled" in a certain light... its not so far different to strangled really

    our boiler broke so we has no heating or hot water, this is the bloody result ^^

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Signing code gives some gurantee that it is teh code issued by the devekloper and hasn't been modified by the time you get it. It is also some protection against malware in that the code will have been tested by MS to ensure that it does actually behave properly. The signing demonstrates that. Notte that it is not foolproof - a lot depends on the depth of testing, but it is an improvement and a defence against poor drivers and lazy/incompetent driver writers.
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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Of course, it's all bollocks

    If I let Windows Update install a nice signed networking driver on my desktop, then bam, no networking

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    to be honest im not surprised there is trouble looking at that thing in the ebay link
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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    it works

    i google how to disable integrity checks and it works its somewhat nice actually to
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    our boiler broke so we has no heating or hot water, this is the bloody result ^^

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    is it actually 10 megapixel? :| it has to be arse
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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    Of course, it's all bollocks

    If I let Windows Update install a nice signed networking driver on my desktop, then bam, no networking
    Yup. Only time I've ever had a driver issue was when i did this.

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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    lol i dont think it is i think they done their math wrong
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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Yup. Only time I've ever had a driver issue was when i did this.
    What amazes me about this is MS have a job, to protect users against bad drivers, and do all they can to simplifiy and abstract away the complexities of device drivers. Whilst they are doing the latter swimingly, i don't get why they don't do the first bit better.

    They take a system restore snapshot before updating the driver. If a piece of hardware is no longer available, the user should be informed that it looks like an update has resulted in reducing the functionality of the PC, would they like to rollback.

    The logic for choosing if too prompt wouldn't even be that hard thanks to the way NT has a really nice driver model and HAL. You could have a very few simple huristics that just said "well thats ok to have one less display component because it was a miniport", but things like "hmm, no longer have any network adapters" shouldn't come up.

    Testing will all too often miss combinations out, there are just so damn many!
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    Re: Windows 7 + why do drivers need to be sighned?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    but things like "hmm, no longer have any network adapters" shouldn't come up.
    I agree. In this case it wouldn't have helped though as the adapter was there, just not functional. Data was down in the bytes/second region and it kept disconnecting.

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