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    UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    I'd heard that UAC had been improved since Vista was first introduced, so I re-enabled it, knocked my account down to limited user, and created a new Administrator account, all of which are passworded.

    Then, my girlfriend was doing some work on my username, and I said I'd save it into her documents folder for her - except UAC wouldn't permit me to do that. I assumed it would bring up a prompt for the administrator password, or her password, but nothing. Just said I wasn't allowed.

    So I had a bit of a poke about today, and found that I was able to look at the permissions for her user folder, and give my account full control over the files in it. So I now have full control, and can create/delete files in her user folder as I wish - all of this without ever having to use the admin password.

    Surely this isn't how it's meant to work?

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    I believe that since you have given your account 'full control' within the users folder you can do whatever you wish and will not need to enter a password.

    If you don't have any control over the folder it should simply say 'insufficient access rights' or similar. I've never seen it ask for a password to be entered (even on 2k or XP), you'd need to actually log in under their account.

    I'd recommend you re-disable UAC though. I mean its just a pain. I want to rename my hard drive, the screen goes white, popup appears, hit continue then I can contiune. A little bit of common sense when opening downloaded apps and you'll never need it.

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    Quote Originally Posted by martinp View Post
    I'd recommend you re-disable UAC though. I mean its just a pain. I want to rename my hard drive, the screen goes white, popup appears, hit continue then I can contiune. A little bit of common sense when opening downloaded apps and you'll never need it.
    I'd recommend that you disregard martinp and leave UAC enabled for reasons I've posted in a thousand other threads and cannot be bothered to detail yet again here.

    Snootyjim - that's certainly not how it's supposed to work, and it doesn't work like that with any setup I've seen (in fact I've just tested this on a freshly imaged virtual machine). The only thing I can think of is that you launched Explorer with administrative privileges, or from another application (command prompt?) that had already been granted those privileges. The security token is inherited from the parent app, so you wouldn't have been prompted for the admin password.

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    I just tried it by launching explorer from the start menu, and yet again I was able to edit other people's permissions.

    Could it be something to do with the fact that UAC used to be disabled, and that I used to be an administrator?

    Also, can I just clarify - is an effect of UAC that you will need the administrator password to perform certain tasks, or is it just the introduction of a constant stream of Yes, OK, Continue dialogues?

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    its weird i have got read access to lodore's user area (my only admin account) i disabled the administrator (administrator account)
    no write access to lodore's user area. if i try to write a file to lodore's user area i get a uac prompt asking for lodore's password.
    I cant access the administrator bultin accounts user area.

    can someone login to there standard user account and check the permissons of their own created administrator account user area access from standard user?
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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    I just tried it by launching explorer from the start menu, and yet again I was able to edit other people's permissions.

    Could it be something to do with the fact that UAC used to be disabled, and that I used to be an administrator?

    Also, can I just clarify - is an effect of UAC that you will need the administrator password to perform certain tasks, or is it just the introduction of a constant stream of Yes, OK, Continue dialogues?
    Hello snottyjim,
    you only get a prompt for admin password if you logged in to a standard user account.
    if your logged in to a administrator account you never need to provide password you just get a continue or cancel dialog.
    Its because administrator account is still a proper full power account and is only meant to be used for system tasks.

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    I haven't logged in as the admin yet, that's why I'm mystified.

    I'm effectively a standard user with no admin permissions, but the ability to edit them. I haven't had a single password prompt yet for anything either, which is what I was expecting.

    EDIT: What I should probably do is create a brand new standard user account, log in and see if they have the ability to edit permissions. I'll give that a go now.

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    Re: UAC - Am I Missing Something?

    Yep, that new user was blocked from changing any permissions or the like.

    Looks like my user account hasn't lost its privileges properly then, for some reason.

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