Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: HFS+ and Windows

  1. #1
    Squeeler Vini's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    1,769
    Thanks
    44
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts

    HFS+ and Windows

    I used to have a couple of External Drives (HFS+) hooked up to my Mac Mini (10.5.8). I've moved house and have decided to move these drives into my Desktop computer which runs Windows 7.

    I have MacDrive 8 installed and the drives work fine in Windows, I have the root of the drives shared on the windows computer and the Mac Mini has no problems reading/writing to these shares which are mounted via SMB.

    My other Windows computers (3, 1x XP & 2x Vista) get permission denied when trying to access the drives.

    Is there anything I can do to allow the Windows Computers to access the drives? Even read only would be sufficient...

    If I share individual folders from these HFS+ drives in Windows, I have the Security tab in Windows which allows me to grant specific users permissions. But this is a poor solution that is not ideal!

    In an ideal world, I would happily allow "Everyone" full access to the HFS+ drives.

  2. #2
    The late but legendary peterb - Onward and Upward peterb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Looking down & checking on swearing
    Posts
    19,378
    Thanks
    2,892
    Thanked
    3,403 times in 2,693 posts

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    Windows doesn't natively support the HFS+ filesystem - a quick Google found this

    http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/

    but it isn't something I have used. There are one or two reviews that seem to think that it is OK, and there is a trial version available for evaluation.

    Interestingly this is possible with Linux systems (again not something I have tried)

    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-linux-521189/

    and Linux will write to NTFS file systems, so a free, but convoluted, way round it would be to copy the data from and HFS+ formatted disk to an NTFS formatted disk. However for convenience, the commercial package is probably your best option.

    HTH.
    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

    Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
    My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute

  3. #3
    <<== UT3 Player spoon_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,071
    Thanks
    113
    Thanked
    139 times in 131 posts

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    @Peter

    I think you've completely missed the point...

    @OP

    I'm using MacDrive 8 under XP SP2 and have 'Security' tab for the whole drive?

  4. #4
    The late but legendary peterb - Onward and Upward peterb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Looking down & checking on swearing
    Posts
    19,378
    Thanks
    2,892
    Thanked
    3,403 times in 2,693 posts

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by spoon_ View Post
    @Peter

    I think you've completely missed the point...

    @OP

    I'm using MacDrive 8 under XP SP2 and have 'Security' tab for the whole drive?
    I think you are completely right! (Sorry Vini)

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    4,825
    Thanks
    161
    Thanked
    358 times in 288 posts
    • badass's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P8Z77-m pro
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 3570K
      • Memory:
      • 32GB
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 850 EVO, 2TB WD Green
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon RX 580
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone SG02-F
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 X64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Del U2311, LG226WTQ
      • Internet:
      • 80/20 FTTC

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    Windows 7 does not like OSX based machines accessing its shares. There's something security related being triggered by the OSX machines. On my computer, a laptop running Leopard can access the Windows share for a bit then seemingly gets blocked. So far, only a restart of the Windows 7 machine seems to fix it for a few more MB of transfers. Completely disabling the firewall has no effect.
    I haven't gopt to the bootom of it and TBH I couldn't be bothered with the faffing around to get it fixed so I just shared the folders on the ibook and copied them from Windows 7 instead.
    "In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship."

  6. #6
    Squeeler Vini's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    1,769
    Thanks
    44
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    Peter, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Windows 7 does not like OSX based machines accessing its shares. There's something security related being triggered by the OSX machines. On my computer, a laptop running Leopard can access the Windows share for a bit then seemingly gets blocked. So far, only a restart of the Windows 7 machine seems to fix it for a few more MB of transfers. Completely disabling the firewall has no effect.
    I haven't gopt to the bootom of it and TBH I couldn't be bothered with the faffing around to get it fixed so I just shared the folders on the ibook and copied them from Windows 7 instead.
    badass, opposite issue. I've got Mac Drives in a Windows 7 machine, sharing back to the Mac absolutely fine. No issues as you describe.

    The only problems I do have is having Windows Machines connect to the shared Mac Drives (in Win7 machine). As there's no security Tab (ala NTFS) to give 'Everyone' permission to the root.



    Thanks all for your help. But I ended up Robocopy'ing everything off the 4 1tb drives () and then back to an NTFS formatted drive. Leaving me with Windows Shares (win7) being accessed with no problems from Leopard (10.5.8), Snow Leopard (10.6.1), XP and Vista.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    4,825
    Thanks
    161
    Thanked
    358 times in 288 posts
    • badass's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P8Z77-m pro
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 3570K
      • Memory:
      • 32GB
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 850 EVO, 2TB WD Green
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon RX 580
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone SG02-F
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 X64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Del U2311, LG226WTQ
      • Internet:
      • 80/20 FTTC

    Re: HFS+ and Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Vini View Post
    Peter, no problem.



    badass, opposite issue. I've got Mac Drives in a Windows 7 machine, sharing back to the Mac absolutely fine. No issues as you describe.

    The only problems I do have is having Windows Machines connect to the shared Mac Drives (in Win7 machine). As there's no security Tab (ala NTFS) to give 'Everyone' permission to the root.



    Thanks all for your help. But I ended up Robocopy'ing everything off the 4 1tb drives () and then back to an NTFS formatted drive. Leaving me with Windows Shares (win7) being accessed with no problems from Leopard (10.5.8), Snow Leopard (10.6.1), XP and Vista.
    Then you need to disable the require 128 bit encryption and require NTLMv2 session security in the WIndows 7 machine. The way to do this depends on which version of Windows 7 you have. It's either a registry hack or you use gpedit.msc to do it.
    "In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship."

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •