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    Time to move on?

    Is it time to embrace the new file format for Office 2007?

    I spend a lot of time setting up new computers for people and installing software. I like to get a new machine all ready with new drivers, updates and basic software such as iTunes, Picasa, AVG, etc all installed. If I install Office 2007 I have always changed the default file format from DOCX to DOC and XLSX to XLS.

    However, Office 2007 has been out for a long time now and hopefully most people have installed the File Compatability Pack on older versions of Office (why Microsoft never rolled this out as an Automatic Windows Update is beyond me!). Is it time to leave the default file format alone?

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    Re: Time to move on?

    It all depends........Personally, I would leave it default and explain how "Save As" works instead...
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    Re: Time to move on?

    Quote Originally Posted by cotswoldcs View Post
    Is it time to embrace the new file format for Office 2007?
    Personally and at home, yes.

    In the business world and at work, hell no. My IT dept is incredibly lazy, I've seen about 5 PCs (out of 800 or so PCs) with compatibilty pack installed. And with Office 07 becoming the standard we are getting alot of documents we can't open properly

    Well I can, seeing as I've installed the pack. But most people wouldn't know where to begin, and I couldn't even tell them to change the extension to *.zip to get at the data.

    Pain in the ass.

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    Re: Time to move on?

    As a chef I'm forever having to make menus. I work for the largest pub chain in Wales, and the standard house computers still only have 'Word Viewer' from the stoneage. Meaning any fonts or formatting I use don't translate well - I've even tried to send the files as PDFs, but apparently the only software available to display and print PDFs it is a very old version of IE (not sure as I have no access to the PC in question), meaning it can't display/print the file properly.

    My opinion, save as the oldest version by default to ensure the widest compatibility. YMMV.
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    Re: Time to move on?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteGiant View Post
    As a chef I'm forever having to make menus. I work for the largest pub chain in Wales, and the standard house computers still only have 'Word Viewer' from the stoneage. Meaning any fonts or formatting I use don't translate well - I've even tried to send the files as PDFs, but apparently the only software available to display and print PDFs it is a very old version of IE (not sure as I have no access to the PC in question), meaning it can't display/print the file properly.

    My opinion, save as the oldest version by default to ensure the widest compatibility. YMMV.
    Try embedding fonts into the document. And to print to PDF try CutePDF/PrimoPDF.

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    Re: Time to move on?

    From my experience I have found a lot more companies are using Office 2007. If anyone cant open a document it normally ends up with me on the helpdesk. So we did a review last year and the file compatability pack was rolled out to all machines and is included in our standard deployment images.

    So it would depend on the ogranisations the company in question deals with but hopefully the buck stops with the IT team of whoever your guys are sending their files to.
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    Re: Time to move on?

    Agree with Singh400 - yes for home, no way for work. The company I work for has only just upgraded to XP!

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    Re: Time to move on?

    Quote Originally Posted by GheeTsar View Post
    Agree with Singh400 - yes for home, no way for work. The company I work for has only just upgraded to XP!
    What the hell were they working with before? Windows 3.1

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    Re: Time to move on?

    I work in a windows free office, .odt is our default. One person does give me the occasional remark, saying we should have Microsoft office as its the standard, my reply to it is which version does he think is the standard, and would he like word 95 and win3.1 installed on his machine.

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    Re: Time to move on?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Sights View Post
    What the hell were they working with before? Windows 3.1
    Windows 2000. We've only just got off Lotus Notes R5 too.

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    Re: Time to move on?

    This is one of my absolute pet hates at the moment.

    I run Office 07 (2010 Beta as well), and OpenOffice. Of course I'm totally used to turning .odt files into something other people can open before sending them.

    Then the other day I submitted an essay that "Must be submitted in Microsoft Word File Format" that I'd written in Office and of course it was rejected because they really meant, must be submitted in backwards 97/2000 version of word file. The uptake of Office 2007 seems to have been painfully slow everywhere.

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    Re: Time to move on?

    Quote Originally Posted by Champman99 View Post
    This is one of my absolute pet hates at the moment.

    I run Office 07 (2010 Beta as well), and OpenOffice. Of course I'm totally used to turning .odt files into something other people can open before sending them.

    Then the other day I submitted an essay that "Must be submitted in Microsoft Word File Format" that I'd written in Office and of course it was rejected because they really meant, must be submitted in backwards 97/2000 version of word file. The uptake of Office 2007 seems to have been painfully slow everywhere.
    Normally I would say PDFs are the way forward. But as late, they have been giving me a real headache at work. The amount of people I get asking me "is there anyway to edit a PDF?" the short answer is "no, not properly". Not unless you have the source document. Drives me nutty.

    Oh and people who save as *.RTF from within Wordpad, and then cry when Word 2003 refuses to play ball. Is it really hard to start Word in the first place and save as *.DOC? My god, we should all be using Notepad and *.TXT.

    </rant>

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    Re: Time to move on?

    The company I work for is still using open office 1 !! IE 6 is a right pain too, wish they'd role something better than that out.

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