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    Windows 7

    Rght, so I'm on my first 24 hours of Windows 7-dom.

    All good, except for some Steam issues.

    Steam was on a separate hard drive. When I ran it, it reinstalled itself, and the games were all fine. THe following games work no problem: Dawn of WAr, Batman Arkhan, Crysis, Bioshock, Darwinia, UT3, World Of Goo, Painkiller Black, Half life 2 and derivatives, left 4 dead.

    The following do not:
    KOTOR (works in windowed format). This appears to be common from a google search.

    Jedi Academy, Jedi OUtcast, prey: In these, the windows 7 taskbar steals the focus, such that you CAN select menu items from the game, but you have to keep clicking and clicking and clicking, with the taskbar constantly stealing focus. There are no warnings or permission seeking going on in the background which might account for it.

    Ut2004 just minimises of it's own accord, and you can't get it to do anything.

    Direct X is fully up to date. Video drivers for 8800gt are latest. All updates applied to Windows.

    Osmos DID have this problem until I switched it to DirectX from OpenGL, but I think the jedi games are direct x by default.

    I can't find anyone hving the same problems on t'internet. Any one here had anything similar?
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    Re: Windows 7

    Can't help much other than to say I never had a problem with the default Osmos settings, but perhaps it set up correctly first time as I installed it under win7?

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    Re: Windows 7

    Meh, turned UAC down a notch, and now no problems.
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty* View Post
    Meh, turned UAC down a notch, and now no problems.
    Keep UAC on and run steam in Admin mode and you won't have the issue

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    Re: Windows 7

    I had issues with EVE cleared my cache and downloaded DirectX 9 that seemed to solve my issue.
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Grey M@a View Post
    Keep UAC on and run steam in Admin mode and you won't have the issue
    Cripes - i've never had to turn off UAC or run Steam in Admin mode to play games. Guess i'm just lucky?
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Cripes - i've never had to turn off UAC or run Steam in Admin mode to play games. Guess i'm just lucky?
    AvP and MW2 both want admin mode for myself. Not really an issue as I don't have steam loading up at startup so I can run it with admin mode when I launch it manually

    Although right now I think my gaming PC is about to give up the ghost. Think the heat in the shuttle has finally got to the 8800GTS xD

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    Re: Windows 7

    Ah. I had tried running the GAMES in admin mode, but not steam itself. That might be the ticket. Cheers.
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty* View Post
    Ah. I had tried running the GAMES in admin mode, but not steam itself. That might be the ticket. Cheers.
    Could be, if steam is in admin then any exe it fires up may well be too (this is default behaviour). Ah, and just a thought - i don't run steam from "program files" - it's in it's own subdir on it's own partition which would mean I wouldn't get prompted
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Could be, if steam is in admin then any exe it fires up may well be too (this is default behaviour). Ah, and just a thought - i don't run steam from "program files" - it's in it's own subdir on it's own partition which would mean I wouldn't get prompted
    I run it from it's own subdir and on a separate partition from windows, but it's not alone in there, and also don't have to change UAC/privaledges - is windows more promiscuous about stuff away from it's own install locations?

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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I run it from it's own subdir and on a separate partition from windows, but it's not alone in there, and also don't have to change UAC/privaledges - is windows more promiscuous about stuff away from it's own install locations?
    Yup - UAC is only sensitive to certain file locations (ignoring registry and elevation control) so hence why copying to program files = bad. This in itself is sensible because what they're trying to do is teach devs to avoid writing to program files at runtime and users to not feck stuff up (or cause other users hassle). Virtualisation handles non compliant stuff, but will still cause prompting anyway, so at least you know a program is wanting to do something bad (9/10 programs don't *need* to do admin stuff). Short answer for now... gotta dash.
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Cripes - i've never had to turn off UAC or run Steam in Admin mode to play games. Guess i'm just lucky?
    With the exception of Osmos, perhaps it's an "age of games" thing? Jedi Outcast/ academy and prey are going back a bit, after all.

    Otherwise, i'm liking Windows 7. It feels right, though I can't exactly say why. The navigation thing works well, which I hated in Vista. Libraries work well, which was a good idea. "shaking" a window to clean the desktop is endless fun. The little "porn hider" button in the bottom right is cool.

    All in all, you hardly notice you're using it, if you see what I mean.

    Now, if ONLY it would remember individual folder view settings...
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty* View Post
    With the exception of Osmos, perhaps it's an "age of games" thing? Jedi Outcast/ academy and prey are going back a bit, after all.
    Whilst that won't help - read what I said earlier - it's down to where Steam is (assuming you've got it in program files) in this case I think. I've always had steam off on it's own partition to avoid messing around when i swap OS which I think is why I don't have any problems with it. I'd recommend the same to you and I certainly am a big advocate of leaving UAC at it's default level for the sake of security.
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    Oh, right, sorry chief.

    No, I have stream on it's own drive.
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    Re: Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty* View Post
    Oh, right, sorry chief.
    Didn't mean it that way

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty* View Post
    No, I have stream on it's own drive.
    Ah, then perhaps i'm dead wrong - the only time I get UAC triggers from steam is during updates to steam itself or due to it installing runtimes (e.g. directx) etc. Never when I run games. Odd huh?
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