Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
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TheAnimus
Erm OK. Lets try something low end. Toshiba Ultrabook, cost about £500, have a keyboard from hell imsho, but the touchpad is incredibly acurate, has infinite scrolling (which I'm not sure what you've tried on to find anoying, but you can always use primative guestures if needed (ie two finger down or two finger up)).
Better end, samsung series 9?
I havent tried a Toshiba ultrabook, will have to try and test one out. Infact i havent tried a lot of ultrabooks as i dont know many people that own them :/ tried a few in currys/PC world last time i was wasting time in Reading shopping centre, i wasnt overly blown away by anything i did try. Could well have been drivers or just how they were configured. I know with my Lenovo i had to remove their drivers and put on the actual pad manufacturers ones to even get it to work properly. I also had to disable loads of features and install a 3rd party tool to get scrolling and tapping with gestures working nicely.
I never feel the need to infinitetely scroll, or at least there are more occasions where a track pads acceleration on two finger scroll is accurate enough (once you get a feel for it, which is pretty quick on OS X)to get were i want to go in one or two swipes. I have infinite scroll enabled on my lenovo but i struggle to find a scrolling speed that is a good balance between when i want to read or when im quickly navigating and i end up, once again, relying on the two finger scroll acceleration.... which is utter balls on the Lenovo unfortunately.
I think its very obvious that personal preference is key here.
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Originally Posted by
TheAnimus
how would you definie willful ignorance?
I would define it as irrelevant to the discussion because the basis of the discussion is opinion rather than fact.
You couldn't possibly expect someone to have tried all the trackpads in the world to make a genuine 100% true statement. The best you can do is form an opinion and have expectations based on what you have tried.
This is no different from having any other expectations, for example, i like Adidas trainers because so far they are one of the few that comfortably fit my feet. When i go to a shop i try them on expecting them to fit. When i go to a shop and try on K-Swiss, i might like them, but im expecting them not to fit because so far, that has always been the case (i have weird shaped feet :D ).
This isnt an 'Apple are superior because im told they are in the adverts' thing, this is one of the few areas where i really think Apple excel.
Yeah some laptop manufactures might be able to produce trackpads as good or better than apple, but from my experience so far, (and i can assume Numbers aswell) this isn't the case, so until i experience otherwise, i will assume they are not as good. We can be stupidly pedantic about the 'statements' made it if we want but is it really worth the effort?
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TheAnimus
Well that just goes against what I learnt about in haptics back at university. I would suggest if you feel any strain clicking but don't when moving a finger accurately seeking medical attention, you will probably require an MRI to see what you've broken, and what surgical options will be available to fix you. The NHS is duty bound to provide this, but you might have to twist their arm, if you forgive the pun.
Strain is perhaps the wrong word, i just find my hand is in a more comfortable, relaxed position once i am used to two finger scrolling and tapping. I also find it smoother and quicker when im working.
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
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Originally Posted by
Biscuit
Cant argue with that really. Lot of money to spend just for a trackpad though :p
It's well worth it.
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
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Originally Posted by
TheAnimus
Except for when you want to scroll, or right click.
Infinite scrolling is so much better in my workflow.
I've never had any issues right clicking on my MacBook Pro; I just press the lower right hand side of the trackpad. It's exactly the same gesture as pressing the lower left for left click!
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
Who buys a laptop for the trackpad? I wouldn't even use the trackpad unless I had to.
I have used quite a few, including the latest Macbook Pros and they are hateful things for doing anything productive on. Even on my old Asus lappy I always used a little Logitech mouse.
I know a few people in my Uni who call themselves video editors but still use the trackpad on a MBP! Its painful to watch them edit using a trackpad. For any sort of work a decent mouse (not those horrible magic mouse things) is essential. Even for word docs, excel etc.
Some might argue that carrying a mouse around is a hassle but Logitech make little laptop mice that are perfect and fit easily into lappy bags.
Unless all you are doing is web browsing or watching movies trackpads are useless IMO.
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
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Who buys a laptop for the trackpad? I wouldn't even use the trackpad unless I had to.
I do! There are loads of situations where using a mouse just isn't practical when using a laptop, such as sitting on the settee. This is why the trackpad absolutely must be top notch as it's otherwise the primary input method.
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
For many, many years I was deeply anti-Apple and in some ways, I still am. Their marketing, anti-competitive behaviour and the whole 'Apple knows best,' stance that they adopt are just some of the annoyances that still irk me.
However, I'm now at the stage where if I'm not using OS X, I find that I miss it. Particularly, the gestures and the 'Magic Trackpad.' (Which is a silly name.)
I got into Apple stuff largely via the Hackintosh. I bought an iPad in 2010 and found iTunes in Windows so deeply revolting that I found myself wondering if it was a better experience on a Mac. So, I began to do my research and by late summer I had my first Hackintosh up and running and I thought I'd try their trackpad with it. It was a fairly hit and miss affair but iTunes was definitely much better when being 'Appley.'
My main rig remained Windows, though. However, as an early-adopter of the Z68 platform, by early 2011, I found myself stuck with the Hackintosh as my main system while I waited for a replacement motherboard for my main rig. So, I began to use OS X on a daily basis and it began to grow on me. The trackpad also grew on me until I found I had become extremely proficient/efficient with it. I still use it today (even on Minecraft) and it's something I miss when I'm on my Windows rigs for anything but heavy gaming.
I've since bought a MacBook Air, an iPad 3 and (as of yesterday) an iPad Mini (a mate was selling it, virtually brand new for £180, so I couldn't say no and I'm typing this reply on it.) I also own three Windows 7 rigs (one a general PC, one LAN rig and one HTPC.) I have a headless home server running Windows 8 Pro and Classic Shell (I tried, I really tried to persevere with it but I've not liked Metro/Modern UI since I ran the first CP of it.) I also own an iPhone 4S, Apple TV and a Nexus 7. I have two Hackintoshes, one a powerful Mac Pro-esque system, the other (another) HTPC. I also have a couple of Linux VMs too. I use them all and enjoy them all. Each have their quirks, annoyances, weaknesses and strengths but they play nicely together in my home setup.
When it comes to technology, I'm a complete tart. I'll give anything a go if I like the look of it. I have no brand loyalty and I don't drink the 'kool aid' of any one manufacturer/provider. I suppose what I'm trying to say is use what you like and like what you use. Apple's hardware is bloody expensive but I feel I've had my money's worth out of whatever I've bought (except maybe this iPad Mini as I've only owned it for a few hours!) and I will possibly look to a new MacBook this summer. My other half and I keep in touch with iMessage as we both live in the armpit of technology where mobile signals are weak. She now has an iPhone 4 which she loves and she is an active Apple-hater!
So, I buy Apple stuff because I like using it. I also like using a lot of other tech too. Horses for courses/more than one way to skin a cat/you pays your money and all that kind of thing. I really don't get the strident opinions of both extremes of the camps. All platforms these days are pretty damned good, it's just a case of what you're used to or what you like using..
/pontification-verbosity-thing.
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
I wanted a Unix based OS and I love the Apple hardware. (MBA Air) It doesnt crash and seems to be alot more stable than Windows. Also as much as i loved Windows 7.. Windows 8 is awful for PCs (good fo touchscreens)
Re: Why do people buy Apple / OSX?
I wanted a non-windows OS for use at home. Work all day with windows,last thing I wanted to see.
I know I could of gone linux, but i had an iphone/ipad so a mac was the next logical step. Got a mac mini, loved it :)
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