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About LinkBacksjust found a copy in a box wondered what it would fetch - any ideas? (completely unused, full COA + licence key etc)
just found a copy in a box wondered what it would fetch - any ideas? (completely unused, full COA + licence key etc)
Looks like you would get £25 or so according to the bay
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Amazon is peddling them for £100 - what do you reckon my chances are
Nothing. It'd be illegal to sell it without the hardware the license was attached to.
Lol - some companies used to sell OEM with a PC component: A case screw !
Not correct. It is against the EULA to sell it without the hardware. If it is unopened, he hasn't agreed to the EULA.Originally Posted by kalniel
"In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship."
You have to be a registered system builder to have obtained XP OEM without associated hardware, during which you agree to only sell it within the conditions microsoft mandate. Whoever sold him* this copy will have provided him with hardware it was to be used with. By not using it with that hardware he's breaking the conditions microsoft place on the use of the product and which the system builder contracted to with the buyer when they sold him this software.
*or the person who gave it to him etc.
Not if he sells the "case screw" on as well.
peterb (04-01-2012)
I'm pretty sure this was changed in mid-2006 to allow boxed OEM software to be sold on by / to third parties - there was a big notice about it on ebuyer. I remember distinctly because at the time I was self employed and providing a lot of hardware and software support, so it was really very relevant to me when I was refurbing old computers without a license (although I've never figured out the specific implications of building a new machine with old components, and whether that qualifies for OEM software or not...
FWIW, I don't think OEM XP is worth anything, and you'd have to pay me to put Windows XP on a new machine instead of Windows 7. If I didn't want to pay £70 for a decent OS I'd rather use some Linux variant...
What's Microsofts stance on 'qualifying hardware' these days with OEM? I thought there was a list of hardware that was acceptable, with a screw not being on there
Has this changed, or just wrong?
Last edited by Agent; 04-01-2012 at 05:02 PM. Reason: typos
Actually according to this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/a...07/461950.aspx
Prior to September 1st 2005 you could sell it with a component, but after that its only with a full computer.
well i bought it from a well known etailer in 2007 and it definitely did not come with a system.
He's not breaking any conditions though, since he has not agreed with them.
TBH all of this is irrelevant. MS license terms are a legally grey area and I hate the way they keep being stated as if they are a certainty on many forums, including this one.
Remember kids, just because someone tells you what to do on a bit of paper doesn't make it legally enforceable.
A bit like a used car dealer writing sold as seen on the receipt
"In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship."
There comes a point where I begin to ignore the law and/or legal restrictions.
In fact, I'm ready to admit to a heinous crime right now. For the last ten years, I have been... honestly... ripping CDs. In fact, I've ripped hundreds of them. To MP3, to OGG, to FLAC, various formats. And I've then played them on multiple devices, including desktops, laptops, mobile phones and MP3 players.
If I vanish off the forums... well... you'll know the RIAA arrested me in a dawn raid.
g8ina (16-02-2012)
Media shifting is an unenforced law, and has been stated as such (specifically in the case of people making compilations onto tapes so they could play them in the car I think).
Microsoft, on the other hand, have stated they do actively pursue people breaching license conditions on their software, as Comet have found out all too recently.
Yeah, it perhaps wasn't the greatest example to use. I'm just saying that perhaps sometimes people get a bit too caught up in the greyer areas of what's legal and what isn't. If you were to attempt to sell a single OEM product on eBay I can't imagine you would end up in court over it, however seriously Microsoft took their position.
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