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    Independent RNG sites?

    I'm in need of a site which offers random numbers through an API. I've found random.org, which looks nice, but it's missing one feature I really need: The ability for people to verify the random number.

    Simple example of what I'm looking for:

    Player A has number 0
    Player B has number 1
    I do an API call for a random number between 0 and 1.
    With the random number returned, I have a unique ID I can give to both players. They can then use this to verify that the random number was generated by the site I link, and that the 'winning' number presented is the one generated.

    The site must be independent, so while making one would be trivial it needs to be 'trusted' by the people involved. Hosting it myself would offer no guarantee of manipulation.

    The number of calls needed would be small.

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    Re: Independent RNG sites?

    I do state why I can't use it in the OP - it's missing any sort of verification to the end users as far as I can see. I could just keep generating a random number until I got the one I wanted, or just not bother and cheat.

    I need the system to be transparent to users in terms of trust. Unless they can confirm the security of the random number used, then it's of no use

    I've found a service that does exactly what I want, but sadly has no API access. It means I'll either need to fill the form in manually each time (not an option), or do some form filling with cURL or something....not ideal either
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    Re: Independent RNG sites?

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    I do state why I can't use it in the OP - it's missing any sort of verification to the end users as far as I can see. I could just keep generating a random number until I got the one I wanted, or just not bother and cheat.

    I need the system to be transparent to users in terms of trust. Unless they can confirm the security of the random number used, then it's of no use
    Sorry I usually don't read the preamble as it's fluff most of the time, did a TL;DR

    What scale are the numbers likely to be between? if it's web based you could make some sort of hash/guid based on an array of known values (requesting ip address, server time, date, server ip) and that would be pretty darn random as far as multiple variables go

    If you need one I could knock one up and stick it on my domain, not sure about the 'trusted' part of it but it's definitely 3rd party, I don't even have access to the server it's hosted on
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    Re: Independent RNG sites?

    Thanks for the offer buddy, but as in my first post, I can knock one up pretty easily. It's just not going to cut it with the people I need it for.

    I was really hoping that there was a trusted service out there that offered this, but it appears not
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    Re: Independent RNG sites?

    How many RNGs are you trying to generate?

    Would you not be able to open source your code and use, say, /dev/random ?
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    Re: Independent RNG sites?

    Probably between 50 to 100 an hour, at most.

    Open sourcing the code is easy - but then there is no guarantee that I'm actually running that source for the program.

    I really thought there would be a 'trusted' site out there for this

    Got a few solutions on the board, but none are ideal. Bah. Cheers anyway chaps.
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