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    just had a look at

    http://www.aria.co.uk/DealforToday.asp

    in firefox.....notice anything wrong ?

    i do

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    nope... any clues ?
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    Well. i have never visited in IE so don't know what its "supposed to/has been butchered by IE" to look like..

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    In Opera all the boxes don't line up nicely as in IE _ I guess the same in Ff?

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    wait.. I see. images are not put in their divs correctly.

    strange that be.. strange that be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killgORE
    wait.. I see. images are not put in their divs correctly.

    strange that be.. strange that be.



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    It looks better in opera than Ff then


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    coming to think of it.. this is a perculiar firefox error. My mate built a web site www.joejag.com and recently haxed the crap out of the css to make it a) use my colour scheme, or some derivative, but have the cool layout he came up with.

    But I was looking at it and trying to get him to "fix" his busted divs that were like ^^^
    I don't know exactly what the prob is... but he got it figured out. It turns out i saw the prob because my desktop resolution is a wee bit smaller than his and I had put the text size up by one when I started looking at his site. tis odd.

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    It's because they're using float:left which takes it outside the normal flow of the document and means that the div will only be as high as the content rather than the height of the image. Naturally IE ignores this rule and whilst it renders in the way the web developer wants to it's actually incorrect. In addition they have all their styles defined inline which is pretty poor in terms of maintainability and in the amount of HTML generated. Firefox is conforming to the way the CSS rules should work, it is not an error.

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    well shut my mouth. maybe i should have looked into the code. Surely if we run that page through css validator it will raise a flag ? *tries*

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    OMG thats the least valid page I ever saw. then again I usually check mine or my mates websites..

    html

    css
    Last edited by killgORE; 15-07-2004 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Az
    It's because they're using float:left which takes it outside the normal flow of the document and means that the div will only be as high as the content rather than the height of the image. Naturally IE ignores this rule and whilst it renders in the way the web developer wants to it's actually incorrect. In addition they have all their styles defined inline which is pretty poor in terms of maintainability and in the amount of HTML generated. Firefox is conforming to the way the CSS rules should work, it is not an error.

    that explains it cheers az

    any one else gto websites that are broke ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Az
    In addition they have all their styles defined inline which is pretty poor in terms of maintainability
    not necessarily. they are likely generating the html through some scripting language - in which case they may well be pasting the css where necessary (similar to c++ inline function).
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    Quote Originally Posted by killgORE
    OMG thats the least valid page I ever saw. then again I usually check mine or my mates websites..

    html

    css
    They never specfied the document as conforming to html 4.0 transitional - neither have google.com, nor microsoft.com. its not "invalid" as they never claimed to be making a "valid" site!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgr
    not necessarily. they are likely generating the html through some scripting language - in which case they may well be pasting the css where necessary (similar to c++ inline function).
    the bandwidth cost on adding the css per page rather than in a linked (and browser-cached) .css file is worth noting.

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    Exactly, in terms of maintainability my argument still stands, it's easier to update a CSS document rather than wade through any java, php, asp, coldfusion code to find the variable or instance where the CSS is set. It's all about separating design from content, something they haven't achieved here

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    good example, apex. the fact that the fixed code has been in that thread for 2 years makes it all the funnier.

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