Out of interest - like what?Originally Posted by Shroom
On tablets yes.
Yes you did - more VRAM? Why? The memory management in 8 is more efficient not less so this seems surprising..
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I'll be getting it with a new pc build but can't say I'm thrilled about it. Nothing about the ui changes seems to have been done to benefit a mouse and keyboard interface.
Improved multi monitor support is a bonus though, and I'm a fan of the reset / refresh facilities.
I only like Win 8 because it's more optimized and "light". I think I will never get used to the modern interface
It takes some time to get used to but I've been fairly happy with the experience.
the only thing i dislike about Win 8 is the lack of options to customize the Modern UI.
I loved to keep my old desktop clean. shortcuts small and few.
I'm downgrading the HTPC and sticking with it on my desktop after trying it for a while.
HTPC reasons:
- No way to start MCE from boot, have to manually start it each time (which isn't too bad on metro UI as a tv PC interface)
- Tuner support seems worse than 7
- Picking up channels is a nightmare, on DVB-S alone I have lost BBC1, BBC3, BBC4, ITV2,3,4 (and +1's) Five US, Fiver and a few other main channels which I had great signal for on Windows 7 straight off the bat (I get some BBC1's but not my local one, only London area ones mostly)
- Sleep support seems worse (could be old hardware, switching mobo on the setup soon so will try again later), as before loses network cards and the tv tuner a lot coming out of sleep mode
Main PC reasons:
- The constant urge to tie stuff to a live account is a PITA
- Metro UI, works well on 1 screen, badly on 2 (or 3) IMO,
- Metro apps, the snap functionality is either too small to be useful or too large to be of any other use
- Compatability with some of my apps I need seems sketchy at best
- Messing about in config settings for things like a DCOMCNFG or editing things like hosts is another 2 steps more complicated now
On the plus side the simplified settings is nice, but an option to keep the classic start menu would be nice, I keep hitting it when going for the first app I have pinned
It's just a little bit of a faff at the minute I find, maybe when I have to upgrade I'll accept it, but until then I'll hold off
I upgraded to Windows 8 yesterday and so far I am pretty impressed.
It seems to run a lot faster and smoother than 7, even in games.
As for the start button if you miss it that much may I recommend Pokki start menu
It will give you a start button and proper start menu back and lets you change other aspects to make it more 7 like if you please.
I'm torn. Hyper-V being available is awesom, fast to boot, seems smooth to use. I don't like the look of it (and I don't like the look of Visual Studio 2012 even more). The new copy file dialog is pretty to look at but seems rather gimmicky. New task manager is good.
We have it on my wifes laptop currently, which is a touch screen with a normal keyboard and trackpad. It works, kids like using the touch screen and browsing the windows store. I've even noticed my wife using the touch screen even though she has it in "laptop" mode.
Hot corners - yes, using the corner makes it an easy target to hit. However, hiding functionality is not good UI design. They also fail badly if you are trying to use it from a windowed RDP session.
Which brings me nicely onto Server 2012. Really, how many touch screen servers are there? It did make me laugh when I put a DVD in and a box popped up in the top right saying "tap here to change...". TAP!? on a server? At least metro appears to be absent from Server 2012.
I still prefer to Win 7. For not, just my feel
My experience in Windows 8 has been a living hell nightmare. Aside from the tacky gerish Metro interface, usability has been stabbed through the heart. It has felt really tacky having to put a third party application to get my start menu button back.
The Metro app so far, my God it's like being at a kindergarten or nursery. For music use foobar, with endless customisations playlists, add-ons love it the Metro music player is for five-year-olds.
Don't let my ranting put you off from buying the cheap upgrade, get it and play around with it on another computer.
Obviously it has its plus points, I'm upgrading from Windows xp, so I will also probably be saying goodbye to hundreds of wonderful freeware software programs that probably won't work.
Anyway my biggest and most horrendous gripe, is the hideous planet destroying consumerism of it all. With the resources of the planet running out being forced to make massive hardware upgrades feels morally wrong.
Also, the whole touchscreen and tablet thing is basically one huge experiment and I feel like the guinea pig. My sister has an Asus transformer using the touch screen with the keyboard is not very ergonomic at all.
I have very bad RSI repetitive strain injury, from playing too many computer games when I was young. and touchscreens do not help my condition at all be they on a laptop or a tablet. I suspect in the future people are going to develop severe neck problems and wrist problems using touchscreens. Good old fashion laptop touchpad are the most ergonomic. In regards to minimum effort to get what you want done.
Overall it feels like a hideous nightmare of an upgrade. And I resent this terribly steep learning curve, surely an operating system is meant to just work. The final insult is having to make three or four mouse clicks to turn the computer off, there seems to be such a disconnect between real human beings and the dorks that created Windows 8.
Did I mention I've got to spend hundreds on software because the old versions aren't compatible thanks Microsoft .
Good god, don't like Metro, don't use it, don't want a touch screen, don't get one.
If you just want to use the desktop then Win8 is just as good as Win7 and better in some ways.
I've been thinking about making the change, and after skimming through these last three pages I really can't see many reasons not to upgrade, it seems that the biggest issue is not having a start menu, and despite having used Windows since Windows 95 I still don't really know what the purpose of the Start menu is, I use it for finding and launching programs or in later versions of Windows seeing what my most recently used files are, but my most frequently used programs have shortcuts on the desktop or I can launch them through the Taskbar and sometimes System tray.
I think that Windows 8 will save me time, after my initial learning curve, the way I understand it Windows 8 is all about simplifying those everyday tasks so that operations become far more intuitive than in previous versions of Windows, plus the OS is more efficient so PCs will perform better and be more responsive. I also think that Live tiles means that I won't have to keep checking my email accounts, facebook account and other social networking sites as these will be updated live in one screen
Keyboarddemon: change already!
I want to get a Win 8 mobile, then have the syncing between phone and desktop be seamless - nice!
One can never stop saying Thank You
I've got it installed, using it and you know what it's actually good once you get your head round it.
My 3 year old daughter can fly round the 'metro' UI with ease and load up various games and applications without any adult intervention which are helping with her spelling.
People do not like change its simple as that really. Look how many people are still using XP even with all the big security holes just because someone they knows says bad things about a certain version of windows (bet it was a pirate copy too!)
That's the problem... too much FUD knocking around for my liking as everyone's an expert all of a sudden
I gather that Windows 8 is very good under the hood. But someone who is 41 years old who has been into computers since the BBC microcomputer when I was 10, to be left this angry by Windows 8, surely shows they've done something wrong.
I normally exhausted when I finished the stuff I have to do. I would rather be able to explore the features of Windows 8 under my own steam than be forced to spend hours googling how to do virtually anything.
God help anyone who is older or not so computer literate. I don't think consumers take this kind of crap anymore and Microsoft are going to pay a price for this. the way they've implemented things have been very uncaring.
Don't worry, I'm not that far off to making the change. Taking precautionary measures of backing up my data and game saves first.Keyboarddemon: change already!
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