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    Re: Buying Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    Nah the guy just gave me a bit of paper :/
    Then if it's OEM it's illegal already - the license requires the certificate be attached to the case. It could be retail, in which case he *should* have provided the certificate separately.

    I would wash my hands of it personally - stick win 8 trial on now and get a fresh win 8 OEM license when you build the new computer.

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    Re: Buying Windows

    If you run one of the previews,it will work until the middle of January 2013. After that you could install Windows 8 TRM trial,which gives you another three months after that.

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    Re: Buying Windows

    Would an OEM version not prevent me from installing it on a new computer? Or at least alert me to the fact that it wasn't legal?

    What's the point of this validation if it doesn't actually detect illegal versions?

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    Re: Buying Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    Would an OEM version not prevent me from installing it on a new computer? Or at least alert me to the fact that it wasn't legal?

    What's the point of this validation if it doesn't actually detect illegal versions?
    Validation just checks that the key is a valid key, it doesn't enforce license conditions - they assume there's little need to nanny users and that most people stick to what they've agreed to (the difference comes when you change component parts and may have to re-validate). If it was an OEM license then it would fail to activate on a new computer/change of components adding up to 10 points.

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    Re: Buying Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Validation just checks that the key is a valid key, it doesn't enforce license conditions - they assume there's little need to nanny users and that most people stick to what they've agreed to (the difference comes when you change component parts and may have to re-validate). If it was an OEM license then it would fail to activate on a new computer/change of components adding up to 10 points.
    Hmmm. A dangerous assumption, both that people stick to it, and that they actually agreed to it, in the first place. I have legit, boxed retail OSs, but I didn't agree to stick anything on the PC, or certainly, not before I bought them. If MS consider that that makes them illegal, well, it'll be an interesting court case, and I'm NOT plastering stickers all over my PCs.

    But generally, I take your points and agree with them.

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    Re: Buying Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    I currently have a computer with Windows XP and this is starting to become a bit annoying with a lack of support for new games.

    Now I'm planning on a new build sometime next year (ideally Haswell) and don't want to waste money on a computer that I will only be using for a few months more gaming wise.

    What are my options? Can I buy a new copy of windows and move it on to my new system next year?
    I'm perfectly happy with Windows 8, not put off by Metro. I just want something that can handle DX11 etc.

    When new games say Vista required but run on DX9 does this mean they won't work on Win XP or that they just haven't been fully tested on XP?
    You can trial Windows 8 for a bit legally.
    You may then want to buy it for the new computer. IIRC you can extend the trial to 90 or 120 days. <<<<< Note that I'm not 100% sure on that but Windows 7 has a 90 day trial option a by reactivating the trial period 3 times and I remember reading somewhere that Win 8 is similar.
    Remember folks, it's legal as long as you are merely evaluating Win 8
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    Re: Buying Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Hmmm. A dangerous assumption, both that people stick to it, and that they actually agreed to it, in the first place. I have legit, boxed retail OSs, but I didn't agree to stick anything on the PC, or certainly, not before I bought them. If MS consider that that makes them illegal, well, it'll be an interesting court case, and I'm NOT plastering stickers all over my PCs.
    Don't worry, it's for OEM that you need to put the sticker on, not retail.

    Quote Originally Posted by MS
    A Certificate of Authenticity (COA) label helps you and your customers identify genuine Microsoft Windows software. Without it, your customers will not have a legal license to run their Windows software.

    Each COA label includes advanced anti-counterfeiting features to help verify the software's authenticity. The COA label is included with each individual software license. For preinstalled Microsoft Windows operating systems, the COA label must be affixed by the system builder to the PC chassis.

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