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    Recommend a (free) Java IDE

    As the title says. Due to my start in life as a mainframe programmer I'm currently using WordPad and a bunch of batch files as my 'IDE'. Would be nice if the IDE could cover other languages (ASP, PHP and HTML would be nice) but I'm really after the best IDE for Java (I'm happy to use a simple text editor for my web dev).

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    I cannot recommend one because I don't code in Java.

    However I do know that (when I last had it) Java Beans was free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kez
    I cannot recommend one because I don't code in Java.

    However I do know that (when I last had it) Java Beans was free.
    Yep. Java Beans is the only (free) one I know about. Was wondering if there was anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfunction
    As the title says. Due to my start in life as a mainframe programmer I'm currently using WordPad and a bunch of batch files as my 'IDE'. Would be nice if the IDE could cover other languages (ASP, PHP and HTML would be nice) but I'm really after the best IDE for Java (I'm happy to use a simple text editor for my web dev).
    Eclipse is one of, if not THE best IDEs and version 3.0 has recently been released- . http://www.eclipse.org/.

    All the Java developers at my work use it and I can wholeheartedly recommend it.

    It has extensive third-party support via 'plug-ins', which allow it to do all sorts of stuff including adding support for other languages - there is one called 'PHPEclipse' that handles PHP, HTML and SQL.

    cheers,
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    Thanks Dave - looks like a winner .

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    I recommend BlueJ. It's not exactly an IDE in the usual sense of the word, but I find it a fantastic tool which gives it a kind of interactive development approach. It might not be for you, but it's small and I suggest you check it out. It will also automatically create, amongst other things, documention and class libraries for your projects.

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    http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html

    I'm still on v1.3.5, I guess I need an update. It says it's a teaching tool but I find it really helpful in class creation and more complex applets/apps.
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    try JCreator, it is free and much like a text editor with java compilation and templates plugged in, i find eclipse a little messy to use.

    TBH i would pay for JBuilder.

    http://www.jcreator.com/index.htm

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    Cheers folks - lots to check out now.

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    i was always too lazy to use eclipse, but it has many recommendations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple
    TBH i would pay for JBuilder.
    JBuilder always felt too 'heavyweight' if you know what I mean. I always had the feeling that it would keel at any minute - and it quite frequently did!

    Anyhoo... our work ended up dropping JBuilder due to the number of bugs in the version we were using (6), the expense of upgrading to the latest version and the availability of quality open-source IDEs - namely Eclipse.

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    from what i've sued of jbuilder, EVERYTHING it uses is a custom borland component, and of no use on any other pc - no standrad java or javax libraries in a sinple application

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    Eclipse is the best in my opinion.

    It really allows you to be lazy (like all real Java programmers are ) with all the automatic comments and code generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamangman
    I recommend BlueJ. It's not exactly an IDE in the usual sense of the word, but I find it a fantastic tool which gives it a kind of interactive development approach. It might not be for you, but it's small and I suggest you check it out. It will also automatically create, amongst other things, documention and class libraries for your projects.

    Edit:

    http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html

    I'm still on v1.3.5, I guess I need an update. It says it's a teaching tool but I find it really helpful in class creation and more complex applets/apps.
    recommendation: totally ignore bluej. Its buggy. it won't teach you about java development; only about object orientation. by all means use it for the latter. but if you're trying to code something other than a very basic app, bluej will put you RIGHT off.

    eclipse is an ok IDE, i use it when doing java.

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    eclipse is probably the "most standard" of all java ide's -
    use it in conjuntion with bluej for creating the test harnesses.

    I actually prefer netbeans - which is the open source version of sun's java one product. It's much easier to work with - and the cvs support is much better.

    I think it's just much easier to work with. I'd personally install all of them, and then it's down to personal choice. at least netbeans is consistent across all platforms - which you can't really say about eclipse. My lab partner was using a mac and eclipse wasn't storing eol characters correctly - he should've noticed when he couldn't even compile at home... but there you go! some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple
    try JCreator, it is free and much like a text editor with java compilation and templates plugged in, i find eclipse a little messy to use.

    TBH i would pay for JBuilder.

    http://www.jcreator.com/index.htm
    I used this for about 2 years during Uni and then in the job I am at now. Very handy IDE, although I haven't tried the newer version but hopefully they have fixed the autocomplete function as it had a tendancy to take over and add what it thought was best not what you knew would work :/

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    The best Java IDE is Intellij Idea. But it costs 500 bucks. Other than that Eclipse is probably your best bet.
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