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    Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Having just spent the best part of the day rebuilding my installations, I thought I'd just warn anyone using ccleaner not to on W8. They don't play we'll together.
    The Registry fixer can bork all sorts of weird stuff.

    http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=38504
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...rs-owner-admin
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    ccleaner is never a good application to run.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Now you tell me !
    Society's to blame,
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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    You can apply that to pretty much any "registry cleaner". I've yet to see one that didn't hideously break stuff.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Works fine on W7 and earlier. W8 was beyond repair.
    Still I have a nice clean install now ! I had to re-download BF3 though because for some reason I don't understand I wasn't able to restore the EA Games folder from backup. Some sort of odd DRM ?
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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    i just ran ccleaner yesterday on my win 7 installation and apart from loosing all my auto login details over 3 web browsers, everything else is fine.
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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    I have used Ccleaner many times before and everything works fine but one point it did break a Win 7 64 bit home premium. That was I went ahead without unchecking registries linked towards system and did not back up registries which ended up unbootable system and have to do a factory restore.

    I never used it on Windows 8 as I notice it cleans up program registry entries well but that was only looking at the HKLM hive...

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    What I've never understood is what it actually improves.

    I mean, for all we know, it might as well just flash up a message saying "8 million errors corrected", and then close, since any difference is likely to be so minuscule that any observed improvement would be no more than placebo.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    What I've never understood is what it actually improves.

    I mean, for all we know, it might as well just flash up a message saying "8 million errors corrected", and then close, since any difference is likely to be so minuscule that any observed improvement would be no more than placebo.
    I could understand reg cleaners on W95 - XP when systems had something in the order of 32-256MB RAM and processors in the hundreds of Mhz instead of the Ghz. Isn't the registry something like 30MB? Which is nothing now, but was significant amount of data to deal with "back in the day".

    I've not run anything like that for years, haven't felt the need.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    I never really change my installation much, apart from changing games.

    I remember when I used to always install new freeware and shareware apps years ago any my computer was so slow with all the crap on it. Ok I did have a Pentium 3 @ 500Hz and it was sooooooo slow. I used to always find my registry was fully of useless info.

    Now run ccleaner every 6 months or so and it finds so little stuff.
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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    I often run CC, but only to clean out my temps , caches and cookies, except those which I tell it to keep.

    Never had any worries, but I have NEVER let it run the Reg cleaner

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    What I've never understood is what it actually improves.

    I mean, for all we know, it might as well just flash up a message saying "8 million errors corrected", and then close, since any difference is likely to be so minuscule that any observed improvement would be no more than placebo.
    CCleaner is a legit app, I use it to remove temp files too. (more efficient than doing it manually or the built in Disk clean up.

    If you run the regcleaner, it offers making a backup before removing any registry entries.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    I could understand reg cleaners on W95 - XP when systems had something in the order of 32-256MB RAM and processors in the hundreds of Mhz instead of the Ghz. Isn't the registry something like 30MB? Which is nothing now, but was significant amount of data to deal with "back in the day".

    I've not run anything like that for years, haven't felt the need.
    I see what you're saying, and it's certainly a factor - but even then, I'm sceptical about what "registry cleaning" actually means and does. Another example was the old Black Viper services trick, whereby you disabled as many Windows services as possible to cut down the number of running processes. A guy actually took a group of low-end machines, and tested out the technique - in all three cases, the speed increase was either negligible, or negative (i.e. it actually slowed the PC down). The only benefit was to save a bit of RAM, and not much at that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ehhhhhhh View Post
    CCleaner is a legit app, I use it to remove temp files too. (more efficient than doing it manually or the built in Disk clean up.

    If you run the regcleaner, it offers making a backup before removing any registry entries.
    I know it's a legit app, and it may offer all sorts of features, I'm just vague about precisely why any of them are necessary. Reclaiming disk space I can understand with the use of extremely small SSDs, but even then I can't imagine CCleaner is offering any dramatic disk space over and above the built-in Disk Cleanup.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Damn, I've been using Ccleaner for years as well as Registry Mechanic, Glary's Utilities and Ashampoo Optimizer (not all at once). I may have been doing more harm than good it seems

    Currently using Advanced Systemcare 6.2 Pro (was free with something) and I just click on it occasionally to get the sense the PC is being 'tidied up'. I've really no idea what it's actually doing LOL.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Use cc a lot myself never had a problem up till now. Use reg cleaner bit sparingly though.

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    Re: Warning: CCleaner can break W8

    Ccleaner is often reported as a malware so I never used it. I really don't want to tinker that much with my registry. It could spell disaster if you do it the wrong way.

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