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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Win 10 isn't going to be free.

    For one year from launch date, anyone running Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 can get a free upgrade to Win 10. Anyone buying a Win 10 with or for a new PC, or upgrading a year or more after launch, will pay in the usual way.

    MS want everyone on Win 10 'cause they're starting to push unified apps and a device ecosystem. A free upgrade to people who've already paid for a PC OS might persuade them to buy more Win 10 devices (after all, who wouldn't ant their phone, tablet, laptop, desktop and games console all seamlessly running the same apps). It's a reasonable ploy from MS - they get some feels back from the community, and they get a quick boost in install base of their new OS (for instance I can't see anyone currently on Win 8/8.1 not taking the free upgrade, and I suspect a reasonable proportion of Win 7 users will go for it too).
    And which part of " can get a free upgrade to Win 10" confuses you?

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    It's going to be a lot easier for MS to close support for old and popular OS's like Win 7 - reducing costs.
    Its a Win for MS, a potential bug-headache for consumers (as we all know - new OS's) tend to have quite a few bugs for the first 2 years.

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by DB007 View Post
    It's going to be a lot easier for MS to close support for old and popular OS's like Win 7 - reducing costs.
    Its a Win for MS, a potential bug-headache for consumers (as we all know - new OS's) tend to have quite a few bugs for the first 2 years.
    While I would agree if we're talking about Windows 8 or 8.1 I disagree when it comes to windows 7.

    Microsoft have included windows 7 as they know they have to but the reality is the number of windows 7 and 8 / 8.1 users which upgrade is all going to depend on two factors.

    - How easy the upgrade is.
    - Compatibility

    While some might upgrade to find compatibility issues with existing hardware and or software ultimately if it takes any more than clicking an "upgrade now" button it’s just not going to work for standard users.

    I will be interested to see how Microsoft present windows 7 users the option to upgrade. The only way I can think of is some kind of popup on windows update to advise the users its available and then allowing them to decide if they would like to upgrade or not. The other option would be to give windows 7 users the microsoft store and allow them to upgrade though that like windows 8 users upgraded to windows 8.1.

    Also keep in mind what makes up for a very large percentage of the current windows 7 users which is business users. Businesses will either not be able to upgrade for free as it does not include them under their agreement or will not want to within the year free upgrade period for fears of user training, compatibility and amount of time and cost required to do the upgrade.

    The reality is while the offer will no doubt help give windows 10 a take up boost on release we're still going to be looking at about 50% of users still running windows 7 (dropping from current 55%) after the first year would be my guess with windows 10 approaching 10% in total considering windows 8 or 8.1 users will have upgraded also.
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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    I wonder if MSDN keys will also get the upgrade choice

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    the question is..will it be free for just 1 yr, then after 1yr they will lock ur pc down until you pay to keep using it...maybe like half price of a normal license...so its like a 1 yr trial or they release a windows 10.1 version that u would need to pay and update

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by ApophisXP View Post
    I wonder if MSDN keys will also get the upgrade choice
    No afraid not, it will be the same as from Windows 8 Pro to Windows 8.1 Pro for corporate customers they will need to purchase the upgrade (unless they have software assurance) and then download and use the media to upgrade from MSDN or the volume license.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonyman View Post
    the question is..will it be free for just 1 yr, then after 1yr they will lock ur pc down until you pay to keep using it...maybe like half price of a normal license...so its like a 1 yr trial or they release a windows 10.1 version that u would need to pay and update
    From what I've read Microsoft have said that once upgraded the device will continue to receive updates / upgrades for the life of the OS. The only thing which will change after the first year is those users which have not taken advantage of the promotion to upgrade will no longer be able to and I would suspect have to pay “something” to upgrade to Windows 10.
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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by gamesaregood View Post
    From what I've read Microsoft have said that once upgraded the device will continue to receive updates / upgrades for the life of the OS.
    Last I read they said "receive updates for the life of the device", which could mean anything.

    I have a 6 year old Dell laptop, happily running Windows 7, but as its most definitely past the end of life as far as Dell is concerned, will that mean no Windows 10, just that I can install it and not get any updates?

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    I would interpret it as "updates until the activate device fails"

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    Last I read they said "receive updates for the life of the device", which could mean anything.

    I have a 6 year old Dell laptop, happily running Windows 7, but as its most definitely past the end of life as far as Dell is concerned, will that mean no Windows 10, just that I can install it and not get any updates?
    Yes I think your right as in it did say device and we can only assume as this stage that like lifetime warranty while the device is still working and functioning and being used it should be eliable to contiune receiving windows updates and upgrades issues to windows 10 users. What really will be interesting however is how Microsoft issue these upgrades for windows 7 and 8/8.1 users as in will it require a product code for validation for windows 7 users and for windows 8/8.1 users which don't have it embedded within the bios or will it be installed like a service pack and just look to see if the install appears to be genuine. If so for retail users (like me) does they mean if they upgrade a PC to windows 10 and then want to move the license it would then be back at windows 7 or 8/8.1 after the 1 year upgrade window has expired?

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    I would interpret it as "updates until the activate device fails"
    Yes that makes sense.
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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire View Post
    how much ram and how many cpus will win 10 pro see hardware wise, any links?
    I have heard that the system requirements in terms of Ram and CPU are the same for windows 10, as for Win 7 or 8.

    However, I have also heard that an UEFI bios is now required. If that is true, there will be plenty of systems out there that cannot be upgraded for that reason alone. I have at least two PCs at my house that would be in that situation, that I would like to upgrade, but probably won't be able to.

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    Last I read they said "receive updates for the life of the device", which could mean anything.

    I have a 6 year old Dell laptop, happily running Windows 7, but as its most definitely past the end of life as far as Dell is concerned, will that mean no Windows 10, just that I can install it and not get any updates?
    The last I read it was worse than that. They said "supported life".

    That is, when they decide to stop supporting it, the "life" is ended, even if the hardware still works fine.

    One question is ... what happens then? Can you carry on using it, unsupported, without further updates, like my XP systems? Or, being a 'continuously updated" system, does the OS cease to function?

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    I have heard that the system requirements in terms of Ram and CPU are the same for windows 10, as for Win 7 or 8.

    However, I have also heard that an UEFI bios is now required. If that is true, there will be plenty of systems out there that cannot be upgraded for that reason alone. I have at least two PCs at my house that would be in that situation, that I would like to upgrade, but probably won't be able to.
    Well the insider builds of Win 10 can even run on older 7 year computers...I checked mine from "MSINFO32" and at bios mode says "Legacy"....Anyway if MS are making restrictions I would have thought it wouldn't reduce piracy.
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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    However, I have also heard that an UEFI bios is now required. If that is true, there will be plenty of systems out there that cannot be upgraded for that reason alone. I have at least two PCs at my house that would be in that situation, that I would like to upgrade, but probably won't be able to.
    Perhaps a mishearing of some of the new OEM requirements surrounding UEFI?

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Part of the reason it's "free" is because of the huge potential for "in-app purchases", so to speak. Paid widgets, apps, etc. will all become normal just as they are on the Android/Apple app stores.

    Especially because W10 is the "cross device" OS.

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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Now only free on OEM devices that shipped with Windows 7 or above.

    July 29th is the release date, not much longer to wait.
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    Re: Windows 10 upgrade to be 'free' for one year - BBC Report

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Now only free on OEM devices that shipped with Windows 7 or above.

    July 29th is the release date, not much longer to wait.
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