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    What are people's experiences of Ubuntu Linux?

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    I have yet to try it out first hand, but feedback I have been hearing has been nothing but positive, even from hardened Linux geeks. The package manager is meant to be superb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt1eD
    What are people's experiences of Ubuntu Linux?
    Using it now.... Based on Debian, so you get Apt-get (package manager) and other stuff...... to be honest it's a belting little distro...

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    it's debian for beginners - debian installer, with a larger set of pre-installed packages (x windows, gnome, apps such as firefox), the difficulty of package installations ramped from Medium setting to Low, and one or two extra packages to autodetect a couple of extra things.

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    I installed Ubuntu on my Linux box but have since replaced it with Xandros which not only took half the time to install but is much more user-friendly.
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    I'm not a great fan of 'user-friendliness', after all, we don't want Linux to end up as another Windows do we?
    Gentoo has my vote for sure. (Dispite there being a good deal of Debian junkies here )

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    I installed Ubuntu on an old PC to check it out. Looked fine, but tbh, I agreee with Ceefer, Xandros is a simpler, more user-friendly distro for Linux beginners. Trouble with Xandros is its not free (not latest version anyway). So if you're looking for a free Linux distro that's easy to install and use, Ubuntu is well worth trying.

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    aidanjt, how can you not be a fan of user-friendliness? It is the mark of quality in anything, whether it be software, hardware, garden equipment or ANYTHING! I have been involved in software development for more years than I care to remember (wrote my first programme in 1976!) , writing very specialised programmes mostly for geologists who have, more often than not, very limited experience in computers. The first thing you learn is to make the programme user-friendly! Otherwise the users get straight back at you and tell you what a load of sh**t you've supplied them with.
    I recently tried installing Gentoo on my Linux box and gave up during the installation process - what a palaver! This distro is for Linux enthusiasts who believe that you need to know a whole heap about Linux before you start the intallation. In my opinion a successful Linux distro is one where you just insert the CD-ROM and sit back while the installation takes place (maybe with the odd press of the 'enter' button), and then it is very clear from the desktop that appears before you what to click on to get to the most popular applications. Xandros does this.

    Xandros IS available as a free download. Xandros Desktop OS Version 2
    Open Circulation Edition can be download from:
    http://www.xandros.com/products/home..._download.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceefer
    Xandros IS available as a free download. Xandros Desktop OS Version 2
    Open Circulation Edition can be download from:
    http://www.xandros.com/products/home..._download.html
    but xandros 3 is current, and he said latest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceefer
    aidanjt, how can you not be a fan of user-friendliness? It is the mark of quality in anything, whether it be software, hardware, garden equipment or ANYTHING! I have been involved in software development for more years than I care to remember (wrote my first programme in 1976!) , writing very specialised programmes mostly for geologists who have, more often than not, very limited experience in computers. The first thing you learn is to make the programme user-friendly! Otherwise the users get straight back at you and tell you what a load of sh**t you've supplied them with.
    I recently tried installing Gentoo on my Linux box and gave up during the installation process - what a palaver! This distro is for Linux enthusiasts who believe that you need to know a whole heap about Linux before you start the intallation. In my opinion a successful Linux distro is one where you just insert the CD-ROM and sit back while the installation takes place (maybe with the odd press of the 'enter' button), and then it is very clear from the desktop that appears before you what to click on to get to the most popular applications. Xandros does this.
    If it were a perfect world i would be all for making life easier for clueless fools.. but even the best wizard on earth wont protect users from their own mistakes, mistakes which is costing the internet dearly. I don't mean to be rude, but thats how things are.

    I managed to install Gentoo (with time and patience), and I don't really consider myself an uber-linux buff. I liked what i saw and was pleased with the results of my efforts. But thats just me I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt
    If it were a perfect world i would be all for making life easier for clueless fools.. but even the best wizard on earth wont protect users from their own mistakes, mistakes which is costing the internet dearly. I don't mean to be rude, but thats how things are.
    Whoa there... I agree that people make mistakes, but 'clueless fools'?

    Bit harsh there, chap. EVERYONE has gaps in their knowledge somewhere. People who are world renowned experts in one field may have no clue in another but wish to learn... surely helping others, making things more accessible to begginers is what progress is all about.

    Me? I'm a total idiot when it comes to networking compared with others, and what I know about hardware configuration could be written on the back of a REALLY small stamp... but I'm learning and improving everyday...

    And unless Gordon Ramsay has signed up to these forums, I can out-cook anyone here, hands down.

    It's not idle boasting and I don't go bragging... I HELP people if I can using the skills and knowledge I've got... that's what it's all about.
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    Deckard, yes I realise everybody needs to start somewhere.. and I don't mean folks like us who make an effort and try to learn..
    And its great that we are all here sharing the things we've learned from past experience, I do like helping whoever asks for it.. but the problem is we are a minority, too many people are completely ignorant and simply can't be bothered learning.. thats what I mean really.

    My applogies if I indirectly offended anybody here

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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt
    I'm not a great fan of 'user-friendliness', )
    I quite agree, but I'm a complete noo8 to Linux, and so want a certain amount of user-friendliness.

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    How much space does ubuntu + updates and software take up (thinking about partioning my drive)?

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    should happily fit into a gig & a half, personally i'd give it about 6-10gb

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    cheers, thinking bout getting myself that £350 Dell laptop, and shoving linux and some programming stuff on it. My partitioning on a 30 gig HDD would be tight

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