So, who's planing on upgrading to / skipping Win11 and why?

[BobF64]

Exactly. To me, Win11 just seems to be Microsoft's second go at doing what they tried to do with 8, namely make it more like a tablet OS for everyone despite it not being the suitable route for PC users.

Indeed, the 8.1 to the 8.0...so 10.1 would have been far more suitable than 11.

Weirdest part is that the actual OS version reported is 10.0 and the build number.

[Richh]

@Jay-Bruce, thanks for that link. The latest nightly of OpenShell seems to sort that problem natively.

So I've got what feels like a functional platform via OpenShell and Valentin-Gabriel Radu's ExplorerPatcher. Back to my heavily customised 7+ style Start Menu and 10 style taskbar and Explorer. And about the biggest nitpick so far is is that the taskbar clock doesn't show seconds.

Have bumped into a couple of errors opening projects in Access which I'm guessing are down to missing references, but other than that it's a lot more functional now than my initial impression.The sluggishness opening apps and explorer windows seems to have sorted itself too - if anything it feels slightly snappier than my Win10, despite, as above, running on a spinning HDD vs NVMe SSD.

It's actually at a point where I'm starting to think about rebuilding my prime install on 11. Need to do some more compatibility checking first tho.

So, edited to add, have been living with it 48 hours now, and all my development environments, programmers and various other bits of 'niche' software and hardware all work fine. Unsigned drivers can be installed via the old technique of restarting with signature enforcement disabled. And it definitely does feel slightly snappier than my 10 build now - so will hopefully be even better once on an SSD.

An annoying habit for tray icons to randomly disappear seems (touch wood) to have been fixed by disabling the 'control centre' tray icon and replacing it with the 10 style separate volume and Action Centre ones, if that helps anyone else.

Probably not surprising that everything seems to run on it, given that it seems basically little more than a reskin of 10. Will be interesting to see what difference the supposed changes to the scheduler make to Alder Lake when it finally turns up.

If anyone is reading this looking for a recommendation, if your system runs fine with 10, unless (for some reason) you like the visual elements, probably just as well to stick as you are. My 10 install hasn't been refreshed in 4 years (partly because it's been running well) so will probably take the plunge and rebuild on 11, now I know it can be made to look work like I want without any downsides.

[Kovoet]

Turned my rig on this morning and was offered and but declined for now till they sort it out.

[leopolt]

After I saw how it's working with Ryzen CPU-s I wont upgrade for a long time.

[Jay-Bruce]

@Richh I'm glad that link was helpful, the rest of your post got me thinking...

...but were I able to get something looking like windows 7 aero running on one OS, but not the other, that could swing me onto that OS. Hmm.. Aero on 10? Theres another thread.

[Saracen999]

After I saw how it's working with Ryzen CPU-s I wont upgrade for a long time.

Allegedly, there's quite a bit of effort (admittedly, far too late) going into fixing that. I'd expect patches sooner rather than later, though it will depend on how easy that is to address.

I still don't plan on upgrading, though not for that reason, at least, once that patch appears. It is a definite MS-Oopsie though, innit?

[leopolt]

I don't understand people who want things like Windows to install on release. Everyone knows that it will have a lot of bugs

[wazzickle]

Anyone know where to get a genuine, legit digital license cheaper than Microsoft are asking, please?

[kalniel]

Anyone know where to get a genuine, legit digital license cheaper than Microsoft are asking, please?

All genuine licenses are provided only by MS or official partners which won't likely be any cheaper since MS don't let them be. Sites claiming otherwise are usually dodgy and since several Hexus users have been burned by suggestions in the past we won't allow recommendations/discussion about non-official partner sites going forwards.

So please, no further discussion on this - PM me if you have questions.

[dannyboy75]

For those of us who have taken the plunge (and have Ryzen CPUs) the two performance fixes are available now - one is KB5006746, via Windows Update. The other is AMD chipset driver 3.10.08.506

[j1979]

going linux I think, only fusion 360 is my slight worry. Will continue to use Win10 for my gaming machine until valve get SteamOS to within 95% in most games then ill switch that. As for windows 11, not interested unless it really has some killer feature I can't do without.

[DanceswithUnix]

going linux I think, only fusion 360 is my slight worry.

I often run Fusion in a Windows 10 VM on my Linux box.

It chugs a bit, and occasionally complains about lack of 3D performance, but for knocking out a quick part it is OK. It is probably the only task I will dual boot into Windows for if I am spending a lot of time on there.

[OliversArmy]

I'll be upgrading likely 2023. That'll give it enough time to have all the kinks worked out definitely, and for any programs I use to fully support it.

[Austin90]

I personally don't actually see a need for the upgrade. Most of the newer additions don't affect me in a large way, except maybe the Window Snapping options. Other than that I don't plan on using Android apps, I don't use any external device as a display, and I don't much care for the new Start Menu.

Hell, I even have my Quick Launch icons centered on Windows 10.

[Jay-Bruce]

I was setting up a black friday laptop my sister-in-law bought for my nephew's xmas and it was nagging us to update to windows 11 on every damned reboot, so I installed a copy on a spare SSD on my main PC and had a play with it. It's surprisingly light on its feet, got a couple of nice touches, and a couple of klangers. The main klangers are the dumbed down ui, but I found a registry tweak to resurrect the ribbon in explorer, grabbed an alternative start menu. I've got three choices in my boot menu, windows 7, windows 10 and default is windows 11, 7 is still the warm fuzzy nostalgic favourite, but 11 is now the daily OS.

[Saracen999]

going linux I think, only fusion 360 is my slight worry. Will continue to use Win10 for my gaming machine until valve get SteamOS to within 95% in most games then ill switch that. As for windows 11, not interested unless it really has some killer feature I can't do without.

Historically, my solution to that Fusion concern (though with different software in my case) is a removable (trayless) hard drive bay. I also have a couple of 2.5" to 3.5" converters, some 2.5" SSDs and several bare 3.5" HDs, so that I can very quickly switch to a different boot drive, even of a different physical size and meia type.

It's a bit trickier if you normally boot from an M.2 NVMe,but on that machine, I dont, so haven't tested it. What might work is to put external boot option higher in the boot sequence, and let it default to M.2 if there is no drive present in the external bay.

I don't see why that same logic wouldn't work with an external (HD or SSD) USB drive, for boot?

It effectively gives me several machines for the price of one, plus a few drives (that I had anyway) and the removal (IcyDock) bay, which was about £40 IIRC.