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    Has anyone tried CoLinux?

    http://www.colinux.org/

    If so, what did you think of it + speed?

    cheers

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    looks quite cool, I might have to give it a try

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    A friend of mine did try it but had lots of problems for some reason.

    He went back to using a fedora based LiveCD.
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    If so, what did you think of it + speed?
    As discussed, one linux is not really faster than the other its all to do with config, and on home user kit you will stuggle to see any sort of performance difference between them.

    the only minor plus's you could really see flitting from distro to distro are distros that are built speificly for your hardware which will not show any real speed difference, or distros like redhat that add their own propritary patches to the software to perhaps improve hardware compatability.

    You will not see any different between disk based installs of distro's.

    I only pick up on this comment as it seems to be asked constantly.

    looks quite cool, I might have to give it a try
    I assume you mean looks quite cools as in visually looks nice (although you could mean as a distro looks a nice complete package) in which case the look of the desktop is pretty much pointless in screen shots. Almost any desktop can be configured on any other distro as they all share the same packages any thing that looks gone on one distro should be configurable on another distro quite easily

    Hope that doesn't come across as putting the comments down, I feel it would just be nice for you to get an honest comment back on your request for opinions.

    with regards to the features of this distro there doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary about it, I assume the features that interest you or draw you to this distro as a point of interest is the fact that it can co-exist from windows.

    the way I've read the info on the site is that it works in pretty much the same way as a live CD and just allows the running of the OS within memory / disk area along side windows - so almost like an application on top of windows, (I'm not sure if thats correct though)

    I'd personally see no use for this distro as there appears no benifit to having windows/linux system running at the same time. A more "core" distro in a dual boot environtment would probably be a better solution, provide better support of your hardware/uses etc.

    Seems like an interesting project, if not a tad un-needed.
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    iirc Mandrake (Mandriva?) used to let you install and run the linux desktop from within windows too, as I'm sure many others do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia
    Seems like an interesting project, if not a tad un-needed.
    thats what I ment

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    Well it isn't exactly un-needed.

    At my uni they teach C++ to you using the G++ Ansii compiler and you need to know how to use the command line interface for the exams and your software needs to compile in Linux.

    So if people don't want to use Linux all the time, or on a seperate box or using a LiveCD then this is a good option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrivatePyle
    How? I prefer the linux desktop and task bar.
    It basically piggy-backs the Windows OS and runs from a "hard file" either in a window, or full screen, much like VirtualPC et al do
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    I apologise if this seems like arguing, I'm just writing how I see it in this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia
    As discussed, one linux is not really faster than the other its all to do with config, and on home user kit you will stuggle to see any sort of performance difference between them.

    the only minor plus's you could really see flitting from distro to distro are distros that are built speificly for your hardware which will not show any real speed difference, or distros like redhat that add their own propritary patches to the software to perhaps improve hardware compatability.

    You will not see any different between disk based installs of distro's.

    I only pick up on this comment as it seems to be asked constantly.
    Sorry, I appreciate that perfectly... but does this not run like MS virtual server so you can run it in a sort of extra PC emulator.... therefore particularly being a small option not be very fast at emulating it.... especially when running like live CDs (of which I am a fan of) off resources which are being shared by windows, running applications & on top of it the 'emulator' like thing with linux in. Could one not install the linux distro to run under this. I have not looked at this program much; just was intrigued by a quick look at their site - therefore I don't know how it runs.

    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia
    I assume you mean looks quite cools as in visually looks nice (although you could mean as a distro looks a nice complete package) in which case the look of the desktop is pretty much pointless in screen shots. Almost any desktop can be configured on any other distro as they all share the same packages any thing that looks gone on one distro should be configurable on another distro quite easily

    Hope that doesn't come across as putting the comments down, I feel it would just be nice for you to get an honest comment back on your request for opinions.

    with regards to the features of this distro there doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary about it, I assume the features that interest you or draw you to this distro as a point of interest is the fact that it can co-exist from windows.

    the way I've read the info on the site is that it works in pretty much the same way as a live CD and just allows the running of the OS within memory / disk area along side windows - so almost like an application on top of windows, (I'm not sure if thats correct though)

    I'd personally see no use for this distro as there appears no benifit to having windows/linux system running at the same time. A more "core" distro in a dual boot environtment would probably be a better solution, provide better support of your hardware/uses etc.

    Seems like an interesting project, if not a tad un-needed.
    Features of the distro? Is this not an 'emulator' style environment in which to run Linux... like virtual server, or virtual PC in Mac?

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    Stoo this is how I read it also.

    So if people don't want to use Linux all the time, or on a seperate box or using a LiveCD then this is a good option.
    How is it different to running it in a Virtual machine, or having a dual boot box ?

    Also (and I'm just thinking out load)

    I wonder if in the senario Dougal suggested which it would be good for software development, if it is possible that you could get issues, based on the fact that X ammount of memory is running windows and there are things like a page file in use for windows. Your now going to segment of a section of RAM and disk to run a virtual OS on top of Windows,so how the Linux virtual OS functions could depend on how windows interperates that OS's functions and how windows chooses to give access to hardware, eg: the two OS's couldn't bother have an exclusive lock on a chunk of disk or ram. Just a possability.

    Still think its a pointless project, more so when there are official Virtual machine projects out there, and live CD's for those who don't want install, and dual boot configurations for those who don't want to use linux all the time
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    I don't think it is like emmulation, I think it is basiclly just booting linux as an application, in the same style as a live CD ontop of windows, so running it as an application. Therefore the speed of the linux distro running will not really depend on the linux disto its self, as for example it will be built out of the same base components, but it will depend on more the spec of your PC and probably how windows is configured more than the actual distro.

    Virtual PC and virtual machines, are not really emmulators (or not as I understand or use them) they are just resources of a machine that are segmented off by software to allow other OS's to be booted/used under the shared resources, managed by the virtual PC software. eg: you could boot redhat/suse/debian all from native install disks inside a virtual machine environment. The distro in question appears to just come with some soft of virtual machine type application built in. So as I read it the performance will not really be the same for you, as it would be for me as I have different hardware in a different configuration.

    For me personally, this is probably not the best way to run a virtual machine, I'd probably use professional virtual machine software and use core distros inside of them. Your never going to get exactly true use of the OS because it will be running in limited memory and disk and accessing the hardware must go through an additional layer (raw hardware access seems a little buggy)

    this looks like somones idea of a fun project, but it doesn't really look usable as a solution.

    As for the features....well I see what your saying if it was emmulation, but its not. (again as I read it) its native linux running in a custom virtual machine.

    Your comments on the mac virtual machines could well be true as I've never used it, and only ever glanced at the docs.
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    Cheers, so is it running it's own disto then of have they modified one.

    I agree with you on the emulator/virtual pc and server stuff (hence quotation marks)... what I meant was was it running as a seperate are of the resources like in Virtual Server.

    Ditto about the resources and not using it cause of that. Just wondered whether you could run live CDs or install to HD, and run inside windows at a decent speed to test different distros... rather than their own distro.. which it sounds like it is.

    Anybody tried it?

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    matt1ed its running its own distro - the disto contains the virtual machine

    you couldn't run other distro is this distros virtual machines as the virtual machine appears to be part of the distro so I don't believe you could use say fedora in this distros virtual machine
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