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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_w
    They're just installed the same way as a normal package - you should be able to fetch them using apt-get linux-headers-2.6.12-1k7 so long as /etc/apt/sources.list has a source for unstable packages e.g.

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    deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

    #deb file:///cdrom/ etch main
    deb http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ testing main
    deb-src http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ testing main
    deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
    Can I mix different versions (unstable/testing/stable etc..). What are all the different types of packages, Ill add them, if I should?

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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    Can I mix different versions (unstable/testing/stable etc..).
    yes, but it's VERY important before you do to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf, and place the following line:

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    APT::Default-Release "VERSIONYOUWANTTOUSE";
    else apt-get dist-upgrade will transfer your entire system to unstable.

    What are all the different types of packages, Ill add them, if I should?
    you're likely to only ever need unstable & stable. i do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    Can I mix different versions (unstable/testing/stable etc..). What are all the different types of packages, Ill add them, if I should?
    I'm not sure if you're supposed to mix them, but I've done it and it's been fine - just change testing to unstable, and then change it back to testing once you've got the packages. It's probably safest to stick with just one though. If you want to keep with testing for everything else (I generally don't use unstable because it can be, unsurprisingly, unstable), just change it back to testing.

    Different types of packages? You mean being able to access different ranges of packages? I would stick with one branch i.e. stable, testing or unstable, although there are is also contrib and non-free, besides main. The line in sources.list would be:

    Code:
    deb http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
    That way, you can get packages such as msttcorefonts, which installs fonts such as Arial.

    I also have:

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    deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian stable non-free
    That's where I get java from.
    Last edited by mike_w; 08-08-2005 at 07:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    yes, but it's VERY important before you do to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf, and place the following line:

    Code:
    APT::Default-Release "VERSIONYOUWANTTOUSE";
    else apt-get dist-upgrade will transfer your entire system to unstable.

    you're likely to only ever need unstable & stable. i do.
    So my /etc/apt/apt.conf should look like:

    Code:
    APT::Default-Release "STABLE";
    Ive changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to:

    Code:
    #deb file:///cdrom/ etch main
    
    #deb http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ testing main
    #deb-src http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ testing main
    #deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
    
    deb http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ stable main
    deb-src http://ftp.ticklers.org/debian/ stable main
    
    deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
    should I leave the last one as testing?


    This looks like the reson everything feels like 800*600:

    Code:
         
    Section "Screen"
            Identifier      "Default Screen"
            Device          "Generic Video Card"
            Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
            DefaultDepth    24
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           1
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           4
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
       
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           4
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           8
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           15
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           16
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth           24
                    Modes           "800x600" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
    EndSection
    As I only want to use a depth of 24bpp can I remove all of the others, and replace both low res modes with 1280x1024?

    [edit]I didnt remove anything, only added "1280x1024" infront of the other res's and it works, and acctually hurts my eyes a bit (probably because I set the fonts as small as possible in 800*600 [/edit]
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    This thread is getting stupidly long now


    In a termpinal, if I do "su", how do I un-su myself after?

    Code:
    kram@MPC5:/etc/init.d$ su
    Password:
    MPC5:/etc/init.d# gdm stop
    gdm already running. Aborting!
    Nothing happens

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    To stop being root, type exit. As for getting out of gdm, I think you need to type ./gdm stop if you're already in the directory.
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    Another problem - the ATI driver release notes say:

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    Version 2.6 kernels require a second kernel module in addition to agpgart, which should be named similar to the manufacturer of your motherboard AGP chipset. This error message should occur if the other agp module is not loaded.
    
    This issue can be worked around as follows:
    
       1. First make sure that agpgart is loading properly.
       2. To find out which AGP controller your motherboard uses, issue the following command: lspci | grep AGP
       3. To find a list of AGP related kernel modules installed on your machine, issue the following command and look for a module (*.ko file) that suits your AGP Controller: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp
       4. Use the modprobe command (as root) to load the module. For example: On a motherboard using a VIA® AGP Controller, you would load the via-agp.ko using modprobe as follows (notice that the trailing .ko is omitted): modprobe via-agp
    My cards pci-express, so do I still need agpgart?

    Code:
    MPC5:/home/kram# lspci
    0000:00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005e (rev a3)
    0000:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0050 (rev a3)
    0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0052 (rev a2)
    0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005a (rev a2)
    0000:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005b (rev a3)
    0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)
    0000:00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0053 (rev a2)
    0000:00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0054 (rev a3)
    0000:00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0055 (rev a3)
    0000:00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005c (rev a2)
    0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0057 (rev a3)
    0000:00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
    0000:00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
    0000:00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
    0000:00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
    0000:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
    0000:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
    0000:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
    0000:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
    0000:01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
    0000:01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13)
    0000:05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5d4d
    0000:05:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5d6d
    Does this driver support nforce4? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0301.html
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    Sorry, antiquated hardware here - only nForce2 and AGP. That is one of the problems with Linux - there can be a delay between product releases and it being easily configured/used with Linux.
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    pciexpress doesn't have great linux support at the moment, and I'm not sure if the pciexpress components have made it into debian yet

    This thread appears to be getting a little long and almost to a degree of hand holding.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    My cards pci-express, so do I still need agpgart?
    I don't think so, so long as PCI-Express support is compiled in the kernel. You can check this by reading the kernel config file, i don't know about Debian, but a lot of distros have the config built into the kernel which you can access by /proc, typing: ls /proc/config.gz should reveal if that is the case, if the file exists, great, you can then extract it and check if PCI-E support is enabled:
    cd ~
    gzip -dc /proc/config.gz | grep PCIEPORTBUS

    if grep returns nothing or CONFIG_PCIEPORTBUS=n, you'll have to go about compiling a new kernel.
    Unfortunatly this is the price you pay for bleeding edge hardware on Linux.

    Oh, I have another goodie for you, Mouse Support in X11R6.8.2, a decent configuration doc to help you get your mousewheel working, most of the stuff you need is in xorg.conf Options.
    Last edited by aidanjt; 08-08-2005 at 11:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia
    pciexpress doesn't have great linux support at the moment, and I'm not sure if the pciexpress components have made it into debian yet

    This thread appears to be getting a little long and almost to a degree of hand holding.
    my (PCIe) 6800GT worked from the word go on amd64 debian

    i think the bigger question is how well fglrx, with its heavy focus on agp (and integrated agpgart replacements) copes with PCIe

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    directhex very interesting. Its good to know Debian do actually have support for PCI ready to go (I've not used debian on a PCI-E system hence me saying "I don't konw")

    The PCI-E support in the kernel in general appears to be around %70/%30 in a work/fail balance from what I've seen (and to a degree read) as long as its big company asus/msi/abit boards though it seems to work ok. You very right about fglrx, plus a few other things are "expecting" AGP, surly work is in progress to move these apps to a more generic interface/handler for graphics cards.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    Soltek K890Pro-939, Via K8T890 chipset.

    Seems to be a possible kernel of gfx bios bug though, I can't use vesafb on one of my card outputs

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    Ive b0rked it.


    In "/etc/X11/XFree86-4.conf" I changed mouse protocol from "ImPS/2" to "usb" expecting at worst,the mouse wouldnt work. Intead, when it gets to X, it just changes res a few times then the screen goes off.... Ill attempt to change it back

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    the "Auto" protocol will work fine for usb mice, read from /dev/input/mice, make sure you have those ZAxisMapping entries, might have to fiddle with it a bit to get the right 'button' Axis mappings to make sure down is down and up is up, instead of 'back button' being down or something silly lol.
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