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    Startup

    Is there a tool that control the programs that start up, especially the order (msconfig is no good for that i dont think)

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    I believe that applications listed in

    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
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    C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start

    will start in alphabetical order of the shortcut.

    So one easy way is to change the name of the shortcut to change the startup order.

    Another option is to write a CMD file (aka batch file) with a series of START commands. Type START /? in a cmd window for syntax help.

    HTH - Rufus.

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    I get the first bit but could that mess up the programs.

    The second bit however i have no idea wat u r on abt
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    I was using a program called autoruns which lets you enable or disable what loads up when you boot into windows. http://www.sysinternals.com/utilities/autoruns.html

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    May I ask why the order is important?
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    so firewall loads before network connects, and antivirus first, security precautions
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    Firewalls will load as a service, and the TCP/IP layer should have it as a dependency, so you don't have any network until the firewall is loaded up.

    A firewall is not an interactive program - that is just the GUI to configure the service.

    (Same principle with AV.)
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    http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

    Wont do the order, but is a handy app.
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    I use TuneUp utilities 2004, its one of the greatest windows tweaks around and can help u mangae what programs start up, without the danger of MSconfig.

    its got a 30 day free trial too which compltetely works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Adams
    Firewalls will load as a service, and the TCP/IP layer should have it as a dependency, so you don't have any network until the firewall is loaded up.

    A firewall is not an interactive program - that is just the GUI to configure the service.

    (Same principle with AV.)
    If thats true it dont matter
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    Regarding the order of execution of startup programs, I did a little research into this a while ago.
    It goes a little like this following a successful user authentication:

    1.
    HKLM / Software / Microsoft / Windows / CurrentVersion / RunOnceEx
    The keys this location and have string values under them which are executed – the names of the values themselves are irrelevant, but the keys are processed synchronously in alphabetical order.
    The values are removed from the registry immediately on being executed.

    2.
    If the user has a logon script defined in their user object, it is now executed

    3.
    If the user is affected by group policies (GPOs) which have user logon scripts, they are now executed

    4.
    HKLM / Software / Microsoft / Windows / CurrentVersion / RunOnce
    The values under this location are executed synchronously in the order in which they were created.
    The values are removed from the registry immediately on being executed, unless the name begins with a “!” in which case it is removed once the process has completed.

    5.
    HKLM / Software / Microsoft / Windows / CurrentVersion / Run
    The values under this location are executed synchronously in the order in which they were created.
    Entries that begin with a “*” are executed even when the machine starts in Safe Mode.

    6.
    HKCU / Software / Microsoft / Windows / CurrentVersion / Run
    The values under this location are executed synchronously in the order in which they were created.
    Entries that begin with a “*” are executed even when the machine starts in Safe Mode.

    7.
    Finally, the shortcuts in the Startup folder of the "All Users" profile and the current user profile are executed asynchronously (so execution order is irrelevant).


    StartupCPL & AutoRuns (from SysInternals) provide a GUI for browsing/modifying some of the above locations, but domain logon scripts will most likely not be visible (though this should not affect home users).

    This information was gathered by me through various testing in Virtual Server using XP SP2 domain members, and is provided as-is, with no claim to be exhaustive, unchanging or relevant to other OS's
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