Bought a new domain name... adding it to current website

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10-09-2005, 09:52 AM
XA04

Bought a new domain name... adding it to current website

Yesterday I bought a new domain name, how would I go about using it for a website already with a current domain?

I asked my webhost but with no response yet.

Eg. current domain name is www.ddsecurity.org, but the new one is www.adrian-thomas.com, how can I use www.adrian-thomas.com to take the page to the same page as www.ddsecurity.org takes me?

I changed the domain name servers for the new domain name, and added adrian-thomas.com in directadmin, in the domain setup area.

I can't think of what else to do.. is it even possible, or do I just need to forward adrian-thomas.com to ddsecurity.org rather than it just working directly? :(.

Thanks
10-09-2005, 12:27 PM
Splash

If you manage your own DNS for the domain simply point www.adrian-thomas.com to 72.20.9.36 - that'll do it.
10-09-2005, 12:32 PM
XA04

I use GoDaddy, so they manage the DNS, but I can change it to something custom, I changed the name servers to;
ns3.ikhost.net and ns4.ikhost.net for my other domain (webhosting told me to use them).

That's what I'm using at the moment, but just getting sent to the GoDaddy website, rather than mine..

Thanks
10-09-2005, 12:34 PM
DavidM

Have you any management application - such as Plesk or C-Panel? You will need to basically add an entry to this for the new domain.
10-09-2005, 12:35 PM
XA04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mort-uk

Have you any management application - such as Plesk or C-Panel? You will need to basically add an entry to this for the new domain.

Yeah, DirectAdmin.

I added it in there the other day already :p
10-09-2005, 01:45 PM
XA04

So I'm guessing this is something on the webhosting side that they need to sort out..?

Contacted them last night, no reply yet though..
10-09-2005, 01:46 PM
DavidM

I know with Plesk i'd simply add a new domain entry, change the forwarding to it goes to the original url - and it would point there (probably with a whole page frame... )
10-09-2005, 02:00 PM
mike_w

Personally, I would just set it up to redirect.
10-09-2005, 02:14 PM
XA04

Well, what if I want to stop using the old domain name, and only use the new one?
10-09-2005, 10:06 PM
mike_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA04

Well, what if I want to stop using the old domain name, and only use the new one?

Then, with the hosting account, you change the domain name to match the new domain. On the account with the domain name, you tell it the nameservers of the hosting company.
10-09-2005, 10:36 PM
XA04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_w

Then, with the hosting account, you change the domain name to match the new domain. On the account with the domain name, you tell it the nameservers of the hosting company.

Domain account = done.

But hosting.. how would I go about changing the domain name? Like I said before I tried in DirectAdmin, so would I need to delete the old domain, and just leave the new domain (what I added earlier) where it is?.

Screenshots if they help..
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/7030/one4xk.th.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/4705/two7bo.th.jpg

I've actually managed to forward www.adrian-thomas.com to www.ddsecurity.org OK, but just forwarded.. not actually been taken to it via adrian-thomas.com
10-09-2005, 10:50 PM
mike_w

Where are those pictures from? The hosting account or the domain name account?

To clarify: so far as I understand, whenever you have a domain name with your own webspace, you need to do two things. First, you need to set up the hosting account so that it corresponds to the correct domain names. Second, you need to tell the domain name account to use the hosting account's nameservers so that it goes to the right address.

Once you have done that, it should take about 24 hours (can vary) for it all to take place.
10-09-2005, 10:55 PM
XA04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_w

Where are those pictures from? The hosting account or the domain name account?

To clarify: so far as I understand, whenever you have a domain name with your own webspace, you need to do two things. First, you need to set up the hosting account so that it corresponds to the correct domain names. Second, you need to tell the domain name account to use the hosting account's nameservers so that it goes to the right address.

Once you have done that, it should take about 24 hours (can vary) for it all to take place.

Pics from hosting account, I can take screenshots of the domain account too if needed.

I've gave the domain the correct name servers, and told the hosting the domain name, but it still goes to the GoDaddy parked hosting page thingy.. I'll try removing the forwarding which is currently on and hope in the morning it will magiclly start to work (Sometimes works... sometimes.. :p )
10-09-2005, 11:03 PM
mike_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA04

I've gave the domain the correct name servers, and told the hosting the domain name, but it still goes to the GoDaddy parked hosting page thingy.. I'll try removing the forwarding which is currently on and hope in the morning it will magiclly start to work (Sometimes works... sometimes.. :p )

You might just need to wait then - it takes time for the nameserver changes to take effect.
10-09-2005, 11:04 PM
XA04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_w

You might just need to wait then - it takes time for the nameserver changes to take effect.

Yeah, well I changed it last night, but only waited about 12 hours, I guess I'll wait till tomorrow night then.

Will keep posted.
11-09-2005, 06:51 PM
XA04

Dodgy, well I asked someone to test it for me, and they got this (What I'm wanting):
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7...age24gi.th.png
But I'm still getting this:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5100/mine2mt.th.jpg
:confused:
Something need updating on my ISP's side or what? (Not 100% sure the way DNS works).
11-09-2005, 08:05 PM
mike_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA04

Dodgy, well I asked someone to test it for me, and they got this (What I'm wanting):
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7...age24gi.th.png
But I'm still getting this:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5100/mine2mt.th.jpg
:confused:
Something need updating on my ISP's side or what? (Not 100% sure the way DNS works).

The same thing happened to me. I just had to wait. When I changed hosting, for a short period, I would get two different pages (old and new hosting) depending on where I accessed the page from.
11-09-2005, 08:09 PM
XA04

I remember it happening once when I first set it up too, but I just restarted my router and it worked. Tried that a few times and it hasn't worked..

How long did it take for it to change for you?
11-09-2005, 08:27 PM
MD

DNS Propigation can take up to 72 hours.....

Just wait, if others are gettign the holder page aand you are getting the GoDaddy page then its your ISP who have not updated thier records, but thats just a waiting game, its all automatic...
11-09-2005, 08:27 PM
XA04

Alrighty, thanks.
11-09-2005, 08:32 PM
mike_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA04

I remember it happening once when I first set it up too, but I just restarted my router and it worked. Tried that a few times and it hasn't worked..

How long did it take for it to change for you?

I'm not sure - 24 hours? I believe it varies depending on how often the nameservers of your hosting company updates.
11-09-2005, 08:40 PM
MD

if it helps, im on NTL and your holder page is showing for me....

m@
11-09-2005, 09:16 PM
Paul Adams

It's not the name servers - the domains have the same NS records and when queried return the same IP address.
This is not a DNS issue but something the hosting company need to change in their web server config - the host header information is currently pointing "adrian-thomas.com" to a default, separate virtual server instead of being an alias for the existing virtual server "ddsecurity.org".

It may be their strange way of administering things - set the server up and then modify it, but it could be that they misunderstood and created a new virtual server instead of just adding the names to the existing one.

Querying my DNS server for "ddsecurity.org" NS records, then querying the name server for the A record of the domain:

Quote:

nslookup
> set type=ns
> ddsecurity.org
Non-authoritative answer:
ddsecurity.org nameserver = ns4.ikhost.net
ddsecurity.org nameserver = ns3.ikhost.net
> server ns4.ikhost.net
Default Server: ns4.ikhost.net
Address: 72.20.9.34

> set type=a
> ddsecurity.org
Server: ns4.ikhost.net
Address: 72.20.9.34

Name: ddsecurity.org
Address: 72.20.9.36

Now doing the same for "adrian-thomas.com":

Quote:

nslookup
> set type=ns
> adrian-thomas.com
Non-authoritative answer:
adrian-thomas.com nameserver = ns4.ikhost.net
adrian-thomas.com nameserver = ns3.ikhost.net
> server ns4.ikhost.net
Default Server: ns4.ikhost.net
Address: 72.20.9.34

> set type=a
> adrian-thomas.com
Server: ns4.ikhost.net
Address: 72.20.9.34

Name: adrian-thomas.com
Address: 72.20.9.36

And if you visit http://72.20.9.36/ you get the message that this is a hosting server and you have to type in the name so it knows which site you actually wanted to visit.
12-09-2005, 03:27 PM
XA04

just thought i'd say I tried it this morning and its working for me :), working here at school too... finally, w00t w00t.