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    Longhorn/Vista

    Has anyone out there tried the Beta yet?

    I thought I would be clever and try it out on a spare 120 gig drive I have, and so I popped into BIOS and changed the hard drive priority so that the blank 120 gig drive would be the first hard drive, but somehow Vista managed to "do" something to my RAID 0 Windows XP array and stuff it up.

    My own main thoughts on the couple of days I ran it were:-
    1) It seemed to make my computer run at half the speed, I know.... it's just a beta still!
    2) Antivirus is not a strong point, again, I know there aren't too many Vista orientated virus out there yet, but a bit like x64 it there seems to be about the same number of Vista compatible AV programs available. Kaspersky Beta works fine for anyone fanciying a dabble.
    3) Far Cry worked fine, although I didn't bother benchmarking it for a comparison.
    4) Normal everyday apps seemed fine, IE7, MSN, ICQ, Outlook.
    5) The only thing I didn't much like was the START, SHUTDOWN bit. When you do it, as we're all perfectly trained from XP to do, it says "Shutting down in 30 seconds" and gives you a chance to cancel the shutdown. Now if I press "Shutdown" that's what I want it to do there and then! Also, for some reason, RESTART shut the computer down, but failed to bring it back up again, it needed a hard reset before it would boot.

    All in all I am glad I tried it and I will be looking forward to the final release candidate next year, and would be very interested to hear anyone elses experience if you have tried it.

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    I'm sure the shutdown thing will be made an option in the final release.

    I too have tried Vista, and although it looks nice, I feel its a bit... bloated? Virtual Folders? For me at least, I don't feel like I'm going to use these 'new features'. Also, without WinFS etc, I don't really see what this new version will offer, and why people would feel compelled to upgrade (unless they are forced by software developers)

    I guess its early days though
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    I know EXACTLY what you mean. Although I personally didn't want to move from Millenium to XP, AND I lost a couple of my favourite games that were not XP compatible along the way, but such is life..... whether we like it or not, we'll all eventually (probably) end up being forced into Vista when it eventually becomes a system requirement.

    Personally I'm happy (as anyone can be) with XP, as I know it well, but if I know I have to jump, I'd rather jump and embrace it before I was forcibly pushed.

    Still, running Vista on my 3.0Ghz P4 is very reminiscent of when I had a P200MMX, I have plenty of opportunities to make a cuppa and empty my ashtray whilst my computer is computing something or another that I haven't quiet worked out but which involves a lot of disk activity.
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    I have been following it since its first leak I love its look, but its getting way toooo bloated! over 1.5 gigs for an OS.. Thats just crazy!

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    im yet to try it, i think they should of just carried on updating xp for now, i dont intend to use it until i have to though, i wasnt a fan of the screenshots

    but hey, guess u cant knock something til u've tried it eh?

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    WinFS is out in beta now, works in XP.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myth
    I have been following it since its first leak I love its look, but its getting way toooo bloated! over 1.5 gigs for an OS.. Thats just crazy!

    Yea but they did a REALLY good job of driver support

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    more than just the drivers, if you look at most of it, its debug (symbol) files, and media content for help n such.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

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    I've tried WinFS too; it was extremely slow, and none of the binding functions etc seemed to be available. I'm assuming you'll need a 3rd party program for that? Personally, I don't like the idea of binding files for organisation. I prefer to make folders for each thing

    Oh well


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    I think the 64 bit edition is actually something like 500mb smaller than the 32 bit? All because of the driver support being substantially less.
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    WinFS is bound to be slow, think of it was pulling blobs out of SQL server beta's, not something for hte faint harted.

    I was talking about this to a mate just today, XML, people say we should all be moving onto it, and there damn right, should of been around by '94 instead of the INI files.

    But the guts of the matter was he was saying that we would of never had el registry in NT and 9x. I strongly disagree, these loverly nice ideas, don't lend themself to performance proccessing (neither does an ini file). WinFS i thought considering its a beta, was suprisingly snappy at dealing with small files, its going to be a cold day in hell before i start using it for DVD ripping thou. (and to be honest, its ouside its rimit).

    I think winFS is great, considering its beta, bench it next to SQL Server 2005, its not that bad considing how less its requirements are. That said i've removed it from the machien i was playing with it on (2gig ram, dual necona xeon 3.0ghz, 5 * 15krpm SCSIs in RAID-5, but thats what you expect of a modern database server)
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