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    MSDN Subscription?

    We're looking at getting an MSDN subscription at work, but we're thoroughly confused about what to get?

    Can anyone give a breakdown to the various options?
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    http://www.qbssoftware.com/product_i...oduct=MSTECHNT
    Technet, the died coke, provides access to software needed by technitions (admins).

    So you've got OS, Database etc. (i think)

    MSDN.

    What is it your doing, if its simple usermode programming, library is an option, as its just the info thats on the site in local form

    Professional is probably better value for money, as that comes with .net 2005 professional.

    do you know the difference between professional and enterprise in visual studio .net?

    Also be aware you may have to license it per programmer. (this is moronic and very stupid for the long term money making plan imo).

    I'd give www.greymatter.com a phone call and get them to explain it, they are who i used before i got my free licenses I don't work for them even thou its the second thread in two days telling someone to ring em. Find out how your licensing your work place. I've no idea the size of your organisation, so can't really give you advice without knowing such things. Also do you already have/need visual studio 2005?

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...s/default.aspx
    has an overview, important notes, premium, professional and platform.
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    I think the idea is to get as much free stuff as possible

    So I think it's either the Pro or Premium we're looking at..
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    premium you get office, viso, project team suite and other such goodies.

    if your going to be doing stuff with source safe etc, premium is ment to be a better bet.

    really depends on what your using it for, if you've got lots of people working on lots of projects.
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    Team suite is aimed at large scale development and costs a mint. Pro is probably what you want (that's what we have) if you just want the pro dev tools, OS' and MSDN library itself.
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    Well, we have a fair sized team, and yeah, we do really want source safe if possible..

    It's all asp.net development, so visual studio, sql server, source safe, library etc etc is a must..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo
    Well, we have a fair sized team, and yeah, we do really want source safe if possible..
    OK, but understand the differences in product - you can have sourcesafe with a pro subscription - you _don't_ need team suite for that. In fact, they're place in two very seperate markets - sourcesafe competes with things like sourcegear's vault (very good) whereas team suite is targeting _very_ large scale developments where you want involvement (shudder) from consultants, product mangers and whole rafts of middle management. Team suite is not equal to sourcesafe - it doesn't even use the same repository for your data:

    - Visual SourceSafe 2005 is a completely self-contained system that requires no other software.

    - Visual Studio 2005 Team Foundation Server is a server-based system that leverages several Microsoft technologies: IIS, SharePoint Services and SQL Server 2005.

    If you've got 500 developers doing parallelized developement then Team suite makes a lot of sense otherwise i'd warrant not. Sourcesafe, despite it's flaws, does everything we need from it as a team of 35 developers working in two geographical sites.

    I'd also be prepared to have a look at Sourcegear's vault which has more features than sourcesafe, but uses the same SQL Server 2005 backend as MS' team suite. It has a very good web front end and allows integration with their bug tracking product too. We're thinking of porting our sourcesafe db to vault sometime in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo
    It's all asp.net development, so visual studio, sql server, source safe, library etc etc is a must..
    It's probably worth pointing out that MSDN pro licencing allows the use of the software provided (OS'/SQL server) for testing purposes only and doesn't give you the right to use them for final product. For example, i set up SQL server 2005 to test vault on my pc but should I want to use it permanently i'd have to shell out for a licence for it..
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