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    Website Help

    Hi, i have made this web page on dreamweaver: http://cubicomputers.gkellypieandmash.co.uk/index2.html

    However as you can see there are some problems.

    The borders are messed up, i want them like they are on the left.

    At the bottom, just above the black box, there is a long thin box which only shows up on firefox not dreamweaver which i can get rid of.

    Can anyone help me with these cause im stuck! (you may also notice a couple of other errors on that page but i have fixed them on my copy, those are the ones im having trouble with.)

    Thanks!!!
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    the problem is in the first <td> cell, it specifies a left border color, but not a right one. And also, jesus thats some horrible code dreamweaver has made, the extra space is probably a silly thing, like something has cell padding set to a couple of px and IE ignores it, or some crap like that.

    In short, learn css, and use notepad/html-kit to write your site, itll be smaller, cooler and more compatible, it also wont do sucky things like only fill the left hand side of the screen
    Last edited by herulach; 21-05-2006 at 05:24 PM.

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    lol, i know what a messy bit of coding that is (it could have even come from microsoft )

    But i needed to have a good looking website and i dont have time to learn CSS and become a pro at HTML (i do know quite a bit of HTML though)

    I just wanted to fix those problems so i could use the site.

    Thnaks for your help!
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    The easiest way to sort it (assuming you want to have all your tables the same borders etc, that would include all the crap dreamweaver uses for padding, so may screw the look up a lot, or may not) is to look up the css spec for tables, and just put a global:
    Code:
    table { 
    margin: 0 0 0 0;
    padding: 0 0 0 0;
    border: thin solid #CCCCCC;
    }
    Try pasting that into one of the top style declarations.

    Edit, that doesnt work, mainly because all teh dreamweaver stuff overrides it, but certainly changing the line:
    Code:
    <td width="782"
            style="border-left:1px solid #CCCCCC; border-right-style:solid; border-right-width:1; border-top-style:solid; ......... blah
    to:
    Code:
    <td width="782"
            style="border:1px solid #CCCCCC; <delete all the rest of the border references on that line
    Will sort out the first problem, although dreamweaver might screw it all over again when you go to edit the page.
    Last edited by herulach; 21-05-2006 at 06:34 PM.

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    Ok, i managed to sort out the borders by getting a bit of code from one border which worked (basically what you said but slightly different code)

    And i have updated the link

    However there strange boxes are there and there are about four now!!

    I cant find any cell padding which is not set to so i dont kow what it is?

    Btw how easy would it to be to make this with non rubbish coding?
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    itd probably take maybe 2 or 3 hours to set up the style sheet and test it properly, but you have all the content done, maybe a day at teh most even if you dont know any css at all

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    wow - the site is not great,

    the theme is fine but the actual way its put together is bad and the content is really bad, in your capacity as webmaster I hope your not going to allow them to go live with that as it just diesn't give a good image.


    The quality of the code will matter, some proxy server components have filters to remove certain chunks of bad code, and it can/will effect the displaying of the site in various browsers as well as load times as errors are parsed and delt with on the client end.

    Please please, rethink your approach for the sake of your client, if your offering services as a webmaster - which you certainly appear to be try to do a good service buy your client.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    I think your right, that is one hell of a code mess, I don’t know how I got Dreamweaver to do that to it!!

    What’s wrong with the content? Do you mean it being written properly spelt properly because there you have a point? Ii was just typing to fill up space to get the look right)

    Basically it is my own "company" and at the moment I’m just building for friends and family but with the intension of building up to be a local company. I want to brand it up with website and everything now so it lays down a good base for the company for when i break out of the market I’m currently in (lol).

    Im gunna look at some tutorials to see what can be done.

    I quite like layout though.
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    The layout isnt bad, but you need to either make it spread across the page (like hexus) or stay all in the middle (like increasingly fewer sites do)

    Also, consider what it would look like on 640x480 screens in old internet explorers, as thats what your upgrade market is viewing it in. Also, there isnt a market for small boutique machines imo, cheap internet boxes and teh like yes, but your average joe doesnt know or care what watercooling is.

    Also, your sig, is:
    a)too big
    b) very annoying
    c)all of the above

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    My sig is halarious (yes its annoying me now too, it will go)

    I will adjust the content to show more buget stuff, as i said i havnt really focused on that. Thing is i live in a rich area where a Merc e class is the basic mode of transport!

    In fact someone wants a quote for a &#163;4000 PC lol

    As i say im just building something up, its not my life plan or anything.
    Last edited by nvening; 21-05-2006 at 10:14 PM.
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    I've never had too many problems in Dreamweaver (8), so long as it's all in tables, it's fine.. only thing that really pee's me off is the incessant formatting in design mode - it seems to think that every piece of text you tye wants to be put in paragraphs >.< if anyone has an idea about how to turn it off then i would be very grateful

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    Nice site, why don't you use a CMS system though? Much easier to setup and getting everything working with a professional edge.

    www.joomla.org

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    it seems to think that every piece of text you tye wants to be put in paragraphs
    By and large this is correct, text should be contained in a block element such as a paragraph rather than separating by line breaks if you go by the W3C guidelines.

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    But, say you were making a list like:

    Title:
    -item
    -item
    -item

    you can't do it in design view (unless there's some option i've not yet found)

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    Im not really sure what CMS is, it sounds difficult lol
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    CMS - content management system.

    It's what every massive news site uses. Joomla is one of the best free ones out there and you can do so much with it. You can include shops, forums etc.

    Have a look at the demo http://demo.joomla.org/ don't forget you can get some fantastic themes from websites like this http://demo.rockettheme.com/

    Hope this helps

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