Slow boot up?

[streetster]

With my sn95g5 windows was booting in less than a minute, now after ive upgraded its taking closer to 3!

I tried safemode, and that takes just as long, and it pauses on the 'loading mup.sys' file... so I had a quick google, and turns out that mup.sys isnt anything to do with it, its the drivers that load *after* it... so i did a boot log:

Service Pack 2 7 30 2006 07:12:56.500
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver ohci1394.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394BUS.SYS
Loaded driver pciide.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver dmload.sys
Loaded driver dmio.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver VolSnap.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver nvata.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver fltMgr.sys
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctoss2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctprxy2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctaud2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ctgame.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvnetbus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\psched.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdpdr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\hap16v2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ha10kx2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\emupia2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctsfm2k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctac32k.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NVENETFD.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Flpydisk.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i8042prt.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipsec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbccgp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\point32.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\splitter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\aec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\swmidi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\DMusic.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\drmkaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxdav.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ParVdm.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\HTTP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys

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Is there anything obviously wrong? my system is detailed to the left... and before anyone asks, yes i did install the nvidia SW ide driver thing when it asked, but im pretty sure i did that on my shuttle aswell (nf4 vs nf3 tho?)

Or shall i just learn to be more patient

[daverobev]

Try http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664

Microsoft BootVis, the boot speed increasing tool that doesn't increase your boot speed.

Erm. Well anyway, MS released it yonks ago as a tool to speed up boot by putting stuff in a sensible place on the HDD, but I guess they didn't want to vouch for it so they pulled it...

With my computer, it sped up time to login, but buggered up post login stuff in terms of speed - networking comes up slower for some reason, so use it at your peril!

I'm assuming you did a reinstall after upgrading - if not I wonder if its loading old stuff - tried a registry clean out?

Running any pointless services and/or startup items - try msconfig?

[streetster]

its a clean install, reinstalled last night to see... did the same slow-bootup thing when i tried xp 64bit aswell i'll give that bootvis a go, but im not expecting wonders

[daverobev]

Full windows update run? Try disabling any network adapters you aren't using?

[kidzer]

Perhaps a hard drive problem - google Powermax and use it to test your HD.

It should tell you of any problems with your HD.

[streetster]

ran windows update, the only network adaptor not being used is the firewire one.. as for harddrive problems, everything was fine in the shuttle, and everything else runs/loads fine, its just windows that takes a long time...

bootvis did nothing btw!

[IAmATeaf]

On your network card(s) how is the IP address assigned, if it's set to DHCP then this can take a lot of time but this would/should be a problem you'd see after the main logon panel loads.

Also it's worth checking Event Viewer to see if there are any errors being logged during normal use.

[Splash]

I know you say it's a clean install, but it's always worth checking msconfig in a situation like this...

[streetster]

considering this happened on my 64bit install, i think its something to do with the motherboard - are there any nforce4 issues or something like that? msconfig shows nothing dodgy, neither does event viewer

[Zak33]

that sounds like an IRQ slow down....where two IRQ#s are trying to share a resource

unplug any PCI devices and reboot....also unplug USB headers....

take out spare HDD if you have one.

Then, reboot and see if the speed improves.

If it does, plug stuff back in, one at a time...you might get lucky and find that doing it that way forces the IRQ's into a different order.

I've had that luck twice with sound cards and SCSI cards.

[Zak33]

considering this happened on my 64bit install, i think its something to do with the motherboard - are there any nforce4 issues or something like that? msconfig shows nothing dodgy, neither does event viewer

yes there are, but nothing major. A few Hard drives don't like nForce 4 boards, and also the hard drive control driver you use can make a small difference...but not enough for what you describe.

I think it's IRQ conflict. Thats AUdigy (in your system spec) is most likely so get that out...it wil go back in a different slot later.

[streetster]

hey zakky, just read your reply, will give that a go tomorrow and see what happens cheers!

[rcmichelle]

It's the reason why I dislike computers. It makes me like an idiot! Mostly I use the software Tuneup 360 when I get something wrong, though I don't know what wrong it is!

[acmz123]

I have problems with my poor PC, I bought it about 3 years ago, the allocation is quite old now, so it runs very slow and needs about 10 minutes to start up, the IE often get freezing, I wonder are there any easy ways to improve my PC’s performance???

[acmz123]

It's the reason why I dislike computers. It makes me like an idiot! Mostly I use the software Tuneup 360 when I get something wrong, though I don't know what wrong it is!

----Oh, really? I’ m bothered with IE connection no responding problems too, if this software so powerful, maybe I should have a try too, hope it is useful!!!