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    grouping Linux & WIndows XP on one HDD?

    i have currently a 250GB HDD with Linux on, i only wanted about 40gb of that 250 (partition it) but had numerous problems!

    but my XP install is on my 120GB HDD, and was wonderign if someone could tell me if i could group them both on ym 120GB? or if i format my 250GB and install linux on my 120GB?

    i need very simple instructions if ya wanto help
    because i really dont want problems with tryign this... one more XP install will probobly kill me

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    both on the 120gb disk with existing windows install?

    1) ensure 120gb disk is properly independent (i.e. remove the 250gb entirely, ensure 120gb disk contains valid ntldr boot loader)

    2) run a defrag and scandisk

    3) insert cd for ubuntu and boot it

    4) run installer, when it offers to repartition your windows disk, allow it

    5) reboot. both should be bootable

    has worked for me since, well, long enough

    if that's too complex. i could always create an unattended custom installer cd

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    ditto to directhex's comments, ubuntu makes it very easy to dual boot from one HD, I managed it!
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    another vote for ubuntu here

    its easier to install and repartion than installing default windows, even if that is because there is no 50 digit key code to type in!

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    im about to try this in like 20 mins, so would the boot loader (GRUB) automatically be configured or would it still try to look for Linux on my 250GB HDD

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    both on the 120gb disk with existing windows install?

    1) ensure 120gb disk is properly independent (i.e. remove the 250gb entirely, ensure 120gb disk contains valid ntldr boot loader)

    2) run a defrag and scandisk

    3) insert cd for ubuntu and boot it

    4) run installer, when it offers to repartition your windows disk, allow it

    5) reboot. both should be bootable

    has worked for me since, well, long enough

    if that's too complex. i could always create an unattended custom installer cd
    Is the Ubuntu installer able to resize NTFs discs? I would not have thought so, as NTFS write support is still beta in Linux.

    I think it would be wiser to use something like partion magic to shrink the main windows XP pation, and to create a 40Gb partion for linux, and then to install Ubuntu onto that partion without allowing it to resize the windows partion. (It will want to divide the 40Gb reserved for it into several partions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    Is the Ubuntu installer able to resize NTFs discs? I would not have thought so, as NTFS write support is still beta in Linux.

    I think it would be wiser to use something like partion magic to shrink the main windows XP pation, and to create a 40Gb partion for linux, and then to install Ubuntu onto that partion without allowing it to resize the windows partion. (It will want to divide the 40Gb reserved for it into several partions.
    ntfsresize has been fine for years, and ntfs writing is fine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvdbuk View Post
    im about to try this in like 20 mins, so would the boot loader (GRUB) automatically be configured or would it still try to look for Linux on my 250GB HDD
    starting with a CLEAN SLATE, you won't even *HAVE* grub. after installing the linux distro, grub will install itself with correct partition information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    starting with a CLEAN SLATE, you won't even *HAVE* grub. after installing the linux distro, grub will install itself with correct partition information.
    clean slate?? the GRUB or bootloader is alread on the 120gb with the following boots:

    Windows XP (120GB HDD)
    Linux (250GB HDD)

    so how would i get a clean slate?

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    with fixboot/fixmbr from a windows install cd recovery console

    but in THEORY, a fresh ubuntu install will replace the old grub with a new one, including windows bootability info

    as long as the 250gb disk isn't plugged in during installation

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    k nice one, just so i didnt think that what im about to do is not what you said:



    remove the 250GB HDD, defrag and scandisk the 120

    do fixboot and fixmbr before Ubuntu install? but i dont need to do this because Ubuntu will remove GRUB/ and create a new boot loader with which both Ubuntu and Windows will be seen on the 120GB

    boot off the Ubuntu CD

    install ubuntu and use the onboard partitoner to repartition the Windows (NTFS) parition which is currently all of the 120GB disk.

    now reboot and it should be fine
    Last edited by jackvdbuk; 27-12-2006 at 08:38 PM.

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    i suspect you've created an interdependance due to your 2-disk setup, i.e. the grub boot sector is on disk 1, but the stage 1.5/2 files are on disk 2

    in which case you really need to fixboot/fixmbr asap.

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    i did the fixboot/fixmbr stuff and succesfulyl managed to boot XP off the 120GB

    now im trying to install Ubuntu onot this disc and i dont kno if im being inpatient or it hs crashed

    this is the screen im on and am trying to leave 80% of the DIsc to Windows XP, so 20% will be left for the Ubuntu installation.


    but its been on this screen for more than 20 minutes...

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    will take at least 40 minutes, probably closer to 90

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    arrfff!! i left it on for about just udner 2 hours, i thought it wernt working so stopped it

    ah well thanks, ill do it again tomorow

    and ty for being on so l8 and helping out Direct HEx, ur defonatly big big help!!

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