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    Some linux applications required

    okay, so im attempting (operative word here) to set up an x-less ubuntu server to run as a mail server, FTP server, media dumping ground and would be grateful if some knowledgeable people could give me a few pointers in the direction of software.

    I dont even know if what i want is possible, but i'll attempt it anyway
    I'd like to be able to download my emails from ntl to one machine, but be able to check them from other computers on the network (and perhaps my phone). Thing is, once i download them from the ntlworld server, they disappear, and i cant check them online any more, so it needs to be checked in the one box. Ive heard the name Merak crop up, but was curious if there was any others that i could try.

    With regards to FTP and media serving, if anyones got any experience with software, i'd appreciate some comments.

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    Do NTL support IMAP ? - If not, get an account that does and use that for email. A heck of a lot easier
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    sounds like you need something to download mail automatically, then servie it via imap. but you'd be better off if your isp allows you to use imap directly

    as for ftp and mail serving, ftp's a pretty crappy protocol, but there are a bunch of ftp servers available in ubuntu (wu-ftpd is the most popular as i understand it). how do you want your media served? just a file share?

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    ill need to read up on this IMAP stuff, as ive never heard of it before

    hex, i was reading up about your Grand Plan and thought that that would be a great thing for me to do as well
    unfortunately, my media pc is running on XP, as its a gaming rig too. Is MythTV totally linux based, or is there an XP frontend?

    I especially like the idea of installing a TV card into the Ubuntu box, then being able to watch TV over the network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve B View Post
    ill need to read up on this IMAP stuff, as ive never heard of it before

    hex, i was reading up about your Grand Plan and thought that that would be a great thing for me to do as well
    unfortunately, my media pc is running on XP, as its a gaming rig too. Is MythTV totally linux based, or is there an XP frontend?

    I especially like the idea of installing a TV card into the Ubuntu box, then being able to watch TV over the network.
    imap is a mail server system where all mail is stored on a remote server, and accessed by any machine. it's good when you have more than 1 computer or os.

    as for myth on windows, there's no "proper" windows version - partly because the gui is written using the "qt3" toolkit, which costs a few thousand per developer to develop windows apps. however, there are options. if you use an older myth release, then there's dsmyth and winmyth - part of an ultra-simple combo allowing access to a mythtv server. there's the web interface, which will allow you to schedule or view recordings from other machines. or there's uPnP, which allows other (non-myth) PVR apps like beyondtv to access myth servers (see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP)

    my other half uses the web interface to schedule & veiw recordings on her windows pc

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    I've not read the MythTV dev list for a long time, but there was a MythTV frontend being worked on for windows. Alternatively you can use uPnP. I can't remember the current status of the uPnP support, not 100% sure you can use it for LiveTV, but it is being worked on. I think VLC can act as a uPnP client http://www.videolan.org/

    EDIT: actually, no it can't. It an use an UDP/RTP stream but not uPnP
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    An FTP server should be fantastically easy, and there are legions of FTP servers out there. I quite like vsftpd (if it isnt installed already). Generally you need to register whichever FTP server you finally decide upon with inetd (the Internet super server daemon), so you'll basically be editing files in /etc. Make sure the FTP daemon is running as an unpriviledged user.
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    im in the process of installing ubuntu 6.10

    following that, ill be doing a fetchmail/dovecote/postfix installation to serve the mail over IMAP to the computers on the network. Then I've got to install AMP to get my network site up. Long night

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    Speaking of mythtv, have they totally dropped the qt-embedded support?..

    I was thinking of running a myth box, but i don't particularly want nor need X running with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Speaking of mythtv, have they totally dropped the qt-embedded support?..

    I was thinking of running a myth box, but i don't particularly want nor need X running with it.
    i don't know if qt embedded was ever really explicitly supported. there's still a qt-based painter, but opengl is now preferred.

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    Just as well I suppose.
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    if i remember right QT was used heavily for the UI, but this has migrated (perhaps not completely) to libmythui which uses OpenGL i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    if i remember right QT was used heavily for the UI, but this has migrated (perhaps not completely) to libmythui which uses OpenGL i think.
    libmythui has interchangeable "painter" modules. you could theoretically do a painter based on, say, gdi+ (windows). wouldn't help with all the underlying data formats which are qt-specific, but never mind.

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    fair enough. It's a while since i payed much attension to the MythTV dev list, been using MediaPortal for the past while. I used to read the post religiously, but then couldn't be bothered when i completely failed to get my head round Linux

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    wake me when mediaportal has a complete uPnP implementation, so you can run a myth backend with mediaportal front-ends

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    i have no idea what uPNP is, so ive been sitting here reading these posts with an extremely slanty :\

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