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    Re: SSD time!

    Interesting reading over on the OCZ forums, apparently Smart info fails on the sandforce controller meaning those CrystalDisk readings are not accurate, which would explain why the disk health often shows below 100% even on day-old disks. There's going to be a fix in the forthcoming firmware from what I could gather.

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    Re: SSD time!

    I upgraded the firmware to V1.11 and also found out why I got the error with trying to do a sanitary erase - It appears it does not work on sandforce devices.

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    Re: SSD time!

    I've got an SSD coming today for my next build. My current computer is running windows 7 off a 4 yr old, 250gb IDE 5200rpm Samsung, so I'm hoping I'll notice the performance differences. If not I'll be a bit miffed.

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    Re: SSD time!

    Quote Originally Posted by redddraggon View Post
    I've got an SSD coming today for my next build. My current computer is running windows 7 off a 4 yr old, 250gb IDE 5200rpm Samsung, so I'm hoping I'll notice the performance differences. If not I'll be a bit miffed.
    You will notice it!

    I would suggest doing a fresh install of Windows 7 on it - I learned from my mistakes after getting the drive aligned wrong by trying to copy from my existing disk.

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    Re: SSD time!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    You will notice it!

    I would suggest doing a fresh install of Windows 7 on it - I learned from my mistakes after getting the drive aligned wrong by trying to copy from my existing disk.
    Aye, it's a totally new build, new Win7 OS license and everything.

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    Re: SSD time!

    I've gone for the OCZ Vertex 2e for my boot drive...waiting for it's arrival now..look forward to giving it a go..should i zero the drive when it arrives?

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    Re: SSD time!

    Quote Originally Posted by roorooroo View Post
    I've gone for the OCZ Vertex 2e for my boot drive...waiting for it's arrival now..look forward to giving it a go..should i zero the drive when it arrives?
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    Re: SSD time!

    Quote Originally Posted by roorooroo View Post
    I've gone for the OCZ Vertex 2e for my boot drive...waiting for it's arrival now..look forward to giving it a go..should i zero the drive when it arrives?
    I'd probably head over to the OCZ forums whilst you're waiting for a few pointers in setting it up correctly (although there isn't anything particularly 'special' you have to do - stuff like updating the firmware (if needed), installing the Intel storage drivers to enable TRIM, making sure you enable AHCI in the BIOS, etc.)

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ity2-EX-Drives

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    Quote Originally Posted by roorooroo View Post
    I've gone for the OCZ Vertex 2e for my boot drive...waiting for it's arrival now..look forward to giving it a go..should i zero the drive when it arrives?
    It should be ready to format when it arrives.

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    Re: SSD time!

    well mine arrived today and all i can say is what a difference its made to my laptop (decided that i use my laptop more currently than my desktop and don't store too much media etc on it so would be ideal for this size drive). can be loaded from dead into outlook in around 30's (compared to a good couple of minutes previous), windows snap open, programs install in no time (office 2010 in less than 1 and a half mins). should give my laptop a good couple of years more life and if it doesn't it'll go in the desktop instead possibly with another one. hopefully they'll get trim sorted with raid and then i'll definately consider that!

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    Re: SSD time!

    hmmm, ran crystaldiskinfo on my ssd today and the health is only at 94%! only had it in a week. what gives?

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    Re: SSD time!

    Quote Originally Posted by marshalex View Post
    hmmm, ran crystaldiskinfo on my ssd today and the health is only at 94%! only had it in a week. what gives?

    My vertex shows 98% on Crystaldisk info. Have you run AS SSD ? I think mine showed lower when it was not aligned properly.

    I read on the OCZ forums that leaving the PC at the Windows log in screen for a couple of hours allows the drive to sort out the free space and improve its performance.

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    Re: SSD time!

    this is what i got from as ssd

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    hmmmm still at 94% and those speeds on the AS SSD bench don't seem to impressive, neither do my ATTO ones i ran the other day....


    any suggestions on how to improve this?

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    Re: SSD time!

    There is a good chance you've hit the "Duraclass throttle". I've spent the last few days reading up a lot about this: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...else-Sandforce

    There is the entire issue of writing compressed data and uncompressed data with these drives. That and benching seems to slow them down for a while (when using compressed data).

    That thread is a very worth while read, even if long.

    The review site benchmarks are starting to look like just that from my perspective at the moment. I've been seeing people getting writes as low as 50MB/s when using the "wrong" data on the Vertex 2e (or insert your SF1200 based drive here). I'm really not convinced by Sandforce right now. The Crucial C300 has amazing reads, but much slower writes - yet the writes are consistent, showing minimal deviation with TRIM working. So while the benchmarks show the SF based drives killing it, as soon as you start playing with compressed data, the entire thing looks a bit different.

    That on it's own isn't an issue though. You'd just think that you'd be happy for the extra write speed whenever you use none compressed data, right? But after a lot of reading, the Vertex 2e recovers VERY slowly when it comes to the GC map. People on the OCZ forums are resorting to secure erasing their drive just to get speed back, before doing the same the month after. Sure, these people are crazy, but it's illustrating the issue well and not something you'd have to do on the C300 for example (not to mention hurting the drives life) as I understand it.

    Another thread that's worth a read: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ce-drive/page9
    I think the top poster sums it up quite nicely with this examples. Quite frankly, I don't have the time (or inclination) to care about what type of data gets put on the drive. More so when they take so long to recover from it if its the 'wrong' type.

    Meh. SSD market is so confusing right now...but I think I might go with the C300 - at least the writes are consistent and there appears to be no worry about the SF1200 compression of data and drive recovery.

    edit - by the way, if there is anyone who wants to correct anything above / point anything out I might be missing, please fill me in. I'm not really 100% up to speed on the SSD market
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    Re: SSD time!

    Your read speeds look OK to me. The write speeds are a little slow but, they should improve when the drive sorts itself out.

    This is what I get.

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