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    SSD time maybe

    Well it turns out due to a mistake among people I've never spoken too I may be getting some free money. This immediately triggered my "well if the money is free I should definitely spoil myself with something I don't really need" and thus I started thinking SSDs. I was wondering if someone could fill me in on two questions I really don't know the answer too.

    Firstly I already a 1TB drive with Windows and some other programs installed on it, will I have to reinstall everything if I install windows on an SSD in order to keep some trace of a registry?

    Secondly if my board can support 6GB/s is it worth going for an SSD that is also 6GB/s or will it really be limited by the controller and so the speed will be the same.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Crucial RealSSD is the only 6Gb/s option, and it will make usage of some of that extra bandwidth. Does it really matter in terms of performance? I would say not. You're buying it for quick access times, not fast transfers, and those few extra MB per second aren't going to be noticeable in day to day usage of an SSD.

    Problem is, there's not a lot of price differentiation at the moment. If it's a choice between 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s for no price difference, then obviously you might as well go for the faster one. Personally, I feel as though the market's lacking competition at the moment, and we could do with something new (like intel 3rd gen) to spice things up a bit before everything kicks off again. All a bit stagnant at the moment. Only a personal opinion, mind, but I'm holding off for a while yet.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    If your board has a Marvel SATA 3 controller, you won't get anywhere near SATA3 speeds.

    My crucial drive runs faster on the Intel SATA2 controller than the Marvel SATA3 Controller.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by redddraggon View Post
    If your board has a Marvel SATA 3 controller, you won't get anywhere near SATA3 speeds.

    My crucial drive runs faster on the Intel SATA2 controller than the Marvel SATA3 Controller.
    IS the marvell really that bad? Thanks for the advice though.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    I have to agree with the others, Although the C300 has a higher speed on Sata3 it is only marginally more than it would be on a Sata2 interface and on Sata2 it is only marginally fast read speeds than the competition but, It has slow write speeds and costs more than an OCZ Vertex 2E which for me makes it a no go.

    In my opinion the best one at the moment is the OCZ Vertex but, I might be wrong.

    If you do get an SSD do a fresh install of Windows 7 on it and let windows format the drive during the install - I didn't and got the drive alignment wrong.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    If you do opt for the C300 ebuy have got it on today for under £90, which is the cheapest I've seen so far. I agree with other comments, though, the Sandforce-based SSDs are probably the best all-round performers at the moment.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Cheers for the help guys, yeah I will have a look on the bay.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzed_out View Post
    Cheers for the help guys, yeah I will have a look on the bay.
    Sorry - my spelling! Meant ebuyer

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/225804

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzed_out View Post
    IS the marvell really that bad? Thanks for the advice though.
    Depends on the motherboard. In some types of transfers they can be slower than chipsets own controllers. In others they can be significantly faster than Sata2, but nothing like as fast as a dedicated card, which themselves are still much slower than theoretical speeds.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/2973/6...-intel-x58-p55

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    the crucial is meant to be a good drive, since it doesnt use the sandforce controller it appears that its not plagued with speed problems and sustainability like say the Corsair or OCZ V2E has, they work great for a bit but eventually they do start to slow down a huge amount! Also i believe Agent or someone mentioned that they have a problem with the sets of data they get, if its not compress able then it makes the drive slow down a crap load.

    You may get the great speeds of Sandforce drives for a few weeks/couple of months but then youll find you have to keep reformatting to get back that speed. The real advantage of SSD's is for the read speed + response time and of course the noise and power usage.

    Whats your budget? If you find that the 128gb Crucial drive is affordable and a comparable price to say the sandforce drives at 128gb then it might be worth getting that since the write speeds are drastically improved. However, i do suggestion waiting till early next year as Intels new drives are said to be released relatively soon and so pricing will change hopefully, pricing is already changing as you can see that the OCZ V2E was like £110 2 or 3 weeks ago but now its £90!. Intels drives are said to bring a host of new improvements, faster reads and writes (something that intel lacked, albeit it was solid performance!), vastly improved reliability which is always a good thing. I recall SSD's being set for 10 years+ but with these improvements youll get way more oh and also the new Sandforce drives might arrive near that time so again maybe they fixed the current problems and can affect pricing positively
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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Depends on the motherboard. In some types of transfers they can be slower than chipsets own controllers. In others they can be significantly faster than Sata2, but nothing like as fast as a dedicated card, which themselves are still much slower than theoretical speeds.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/2973/6...-intel-x58-p55
    Ah damn, I have a P7P55D-E so I'm dumped in the group of terrible Asus boards when it comes to 6GB/s. On the plus though it does mean I do not feel obliged to get a 6gb/s ssd.

    Thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    the crucial is meant to be a good drive, since it doesnt use the sandforce controller it appears that its not plagued with speed problems and sustainability like say the Corsair or OCZ V2E has, they work great for a bit but eventually they do start to slow down a huge amount! Also i believe Agent or someone mentioned that they have a problem with the sets of data they get, if its not compress able then it makes the drive slow down a crap load.
    But, Is it any slower than the C300 when it does slow down ? Surely the compressible data thing only effects the write speeds and the C300 sucks on that too.

    Like you said, The read speeds and IOPS make the SSD's worthwhile.

    You may get the great speeds of Sandforce drives for a few weeks/couple of months but then youll find you have to keep reformatting to get back that speed.
    I've had my Vertex 2E for 2months now and can't say it is significantly slower, Maybe 10MB/s on ATTO benchmark.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    There were some "garbage collection" issues with the SandForce drives when they were released, but according to Anand firmware updates fixed all of that.

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    You reminded me to check for firmware updates and it's took me ages to do it. Last time I just downloaded the package and ran it within windows and it worked, This time it would not work from the OS install on the SSD itself so I ended up having to use another HDD with windows on it to update the firmware.

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Is SSD time like Hammer time but quicker??

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    Re: SSD time maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Is SSD time like Hammer time but quicker??
    The only thing faster than SSD time is striped SSD time... Hammer time is obsolete.

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