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    Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    It's a 120gb Vertex 2E, any software I should install/common practices that I should try to maintain? I've noticed it maxes out at 236mb/s read/write making me think that it's my motherboard being a bit sluggish, no worry for me really as it's a hell of a fast drive for games OS so far. TRIM is automatic as I understand it.
    Also, any ideas how I get the default program files to be on my 500GB f3, everything wants to install on the SSD and I think that's a bit of a waste personally
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    If you're using Windows 7, ensure you turn off the automatic scheduled defrag runs for the SSD. It's supposed to do it automatically but didn't for my Intel X25-M. Defrag serves no purpose on an SSD and will just use up write cycles.

    TRIM is automatic when supported by the OS, there's not a lot you can do about it either way; I think 7 supports it, Vista downwards don't.

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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    Allow garbage collection occaisonally by leaving the machine to idle. Change power plan to never let the drive shut down. This enables GC to work during low activity.
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...age-Collection
    I never allow express installs and always hit custom to force other apps and data to install on my storage drive. If y9ou find a better way let me know !
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    some of the AMD AHCI drivers do not support trim so best left with the Microsoft one is the general opinion but, I think the later AMD driver does support trim according to what was said about it.

    If you let windows 7 format the drive during the install of windows then it should all be aligned correctly. If in doubt you can check the alignment using AS-SSD.

    One thing I keep meaning to do, Is to try and move the Windows Temp folder to another drive so it does not put all that garbage on the SSD - If anyone knows how to do it with ease I'd like to know.

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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    How do I know which firmware I have installed on my drive?
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    Quote Originally Posted by nibbler View Post
    How do I know which firmware I have installed on my drive?
    Launch AS-SSD.

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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    The BIOS shows it on boot. Other than that I'm not sure.
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    1.24 apparently which is up to date then. How do I check alignment?

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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    I did the cmd prompt trim check and it came up 0 but apparently that doesn't necessarily mean it's running? I'm sure it is though.
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    Quote Originally Posted by nibbler View Post
    1.24 apparently which is up to date then. How do I check alignment?

    Where it says 103424k -OK ......... That means the alignment is correct.

    It seems you might not have it set for AHCI as it says pciide.

    It should look like this


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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    Where did it tell you the firmware ? That image shows 1.25 ?
    Mine shows 1.22, and apparently there's no easy way of flashing the firmware on a boot drive. Unless anyone can help ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    Where did it tell you the firmware ? That image shows 1.25 ?
    Mine shows 1.22, and apparently there's no easy way of flashing the firmware on a boot drive. Unless anyone can help ?
    Yes, the 1.25 is the firmware version. According to something I read on the OCZ site 1.23, 1.24 & 1.25 is the same. The later 1.24 & 1.25 just have support for later models or larger capacity.

    Well, When I bought this drive it came with an early firmware and I flashed it to 1.11 using the Windows 7 OS installed on it but, when I tried to flash it to 1.23 I could not do it like that. So I installed win 7 32bit on another drive and booted that and Flashed the SSD as a non bootable drive. If that makes any sense.

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    How do I set it to ahci then?
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    How do I set it to ahci then?
    You should have set it in the BIOS. before installing windows.

    I'm not sure about changing it now after you have installed windows. It could be difficult.

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    Worth it though?
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    Re: Just got an SSD, anything I should know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    You should have set it in the BIOS. before installing windows.

    I'm not sure about changing it now after you have installed windows. It could be difficult.
    I read that and tried it anyway using my old sataa install and it worked with no problems but had achi running when I installed my ssd.

    I pulled this of another site for hints with installing ssd's. Thank yyou t whoever wrote it

    If any of you are thinking of getting a SSSD here is a instalation guide for it.

    Advanced User Windows 7 Complete Installation Guide For SSD's (for normal use most of these tweaks are NOT needed.

    The red posts are all you really need unless you are an advanced user and enjoy tweaking.

    Windows 7 SSD installation procedure: (starting with a new or secure erased SSD)
    (1) Check the board is in AHCI mode, if no option is available there is nothing you can do.

    (2) Check if S1 and S3 sleep are supported in bios, I usually set S1 but S3 should be ok also....if they are not in bios there is nothing you can do

    (3) Check ACPI 2.0 is in bios and enabled, if its not in bios there is nothing you can do.

    (4) Let win7 installer create and format the partition, all you do is hit NEXT even though the installer sees the drive and reports the drive space is RAW. Win7 will create a primary partition and quick format all on its own.

    Immediately after installing Windows:

    (1) Turn Off Hibernation File: Type cmd in search, right click cmd symbol that comes up and choose "run as administrator". Type “powercfg -h off” and press enter.

    OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED SHORT STROKE DRIVE 25%: control panel/administrative tools/computer management/storage/disk management/ right click on C drive/ shrink volume follow instructions to shrink volume shrink so you have 25% unallocated space minimum. Helps drive maintain its self at higher performance and helps overall drive life.

    (2) OPTIONAL BUT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Turn off paging file: control panel/ system/advanced system settings/performance settings/advanced/virtual memory/change click no paging file, click set, apply, ok. (Restart later) Note: if you want to use a paging file for some reason set the minimum size to 1000mb and the maximum size to 1000mb. (Restart Later)

    (3) OPTIONAL BUT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Turn off system protection: control panel/ system/system protection make sure all drives are off especially C. You can make system images so system protection is just a giant waste of disk space.

    (4) Turn off drive indexing: Right click all drives and uncheck drive indexing, click apply (ignore all when comes up) Also go to windows storage manager select the system reserved partition right click uncheck drive indexing, click apply (ignore all when comes up).

    (5) OPTIONAL: Turn off Recycle Bin or reduce in size.

    (6) Turn Off Reliability Monitor: Admin tools, open task scheduler. expand task scheduler library, then Microsoft, then Windows. Scroll down and click on RAC. Go to the top and select View then show hidden tasks IF RACTASK is not showing. Right click on RacTask and select disable. To re-enable it, you right click it and select enable.
    Here is the good part.... disabling it stops it from PROCESSING reliability data and errors for reliability viewer. The data is still collected in the logs, just stored efficiently. You can re-enable it and see the reliability stuff when U wish. Disabling it saved RAM and some drive churning until U need to look at it.

    (7) Set the power state to high performance and set the machine to never sleep, HDD power down to OFF (off is before 1 minute).

    (8) Disable SuperFetch: Type regedit in search, click on symbol then go HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchPerameters right click EnableSuperfetch hit modify and change to 0 and hit OK.
    (NOTE: alot of people also disable prefetch as well as superfetch but I find system runs better with prefetch enabled).


    (9) Enable Large System Cache: Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management right click LargeSystemCache hit modify and change to 1 and hit OK.

    (10) Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem right click NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation hit modify and change to 1 and hit OK then right click NtfsMemoryUsage hit modify and change to 2 and hit OK.

    (11) Disable SuperFetch in services: Go to Control Panel select Administrative Tools\Services double click SuperFetch select startup type as disabled then click ok.

    (12) While in Services double click Disk Defragmenter select startup type as manuel then click ok.
    Now Restart Your System For The First Time then:


    (1) Install Chipset Drivers.

    (2) Use win7 native AHCI (Will be automatically installed by windows during installation) driver for AMD. Use the newest Intel RST driver (Download and install after windows installation. Note INTEL Chipset Drivers should be installed first then RST driver.)for INTEL systems.

    (3) RESTART

    (4) Enable windows write back catching on C drive: right click C drive/hardware/your drive/ properties/change settings/policies/ check turnoff windows write-caching buffer flushing.......................

    (5) Install Windows Updates Including Optional Hardware Updates.

    (6) Install any additional drivers as necessary.

    (7) Install Software

    (8) NOW ENJOY YOUR SUPERFAST SSD

    this is what i do for every ssd installation its a compilation of what i have found to produce the best results

    The red posts are all you really need unless you are an advanced user and enjoy tweaking.

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