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    Re: How can I reduce writes to my SSD?

    I have a Crucial M4 which has been in use for years and doesn't have nearly that amount of writes - the wear indicator is still up around 98% and that's even with both Firefox and Chrome open most of the time with their continual background writes. I do have hibernation disabled though - do you use Win10 with fast boot as that basically reboots then enters hibernation? Still, I'm not sure that would account for tens of terabytes!

    You can use Process Monitor to monitor cumulative disk activity, but bear in mind it can impact performance slightly and consume a lot of RAM if you leave it running for a while. It's very useful for tracking down what's causing excessive writes in your daily use though. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon

    Edit: I've just left paging/swap files on the SSD now - with 16GB of RAM I've found they barely get touched anyway; completely disabling them can cause the odd problem, so I just set it to 1GB to save space (SSDs like free space to ease wear levelling too) and Windows has never asked to make it bigger.

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    Re: How can I reduce writes to my SSD?

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Complete waste of time! Only worth it to free space on small drives. This is one of those areas where bad advice keeps getting repeated on the internet!
    Not really since my oldest SSD has lasted nearly six years(its still at 100%),and if you want to bog your SSD down with more crap,and waste more precious space be my guest,especially with the system one being 120GB!

    If MS want their POS pagefile,I am not going to waste it on my SSD or any SSD. It can go on the spinny disk and do whatever it wants.

    Also due to the nature of some of the stuff I do Windows has this annoying way of still expecting to have a page file and sometimes using it - so I have always left it on a 7200RPM drive and it can do whatever it wants to do. Plus the only swap I will have on an SSD is the scratch file for some of the image editing stuff due to speed considerations,but I don't do that all the time so its not a real problem in terms of writes.

    I look at your sig and you have a brand new drive - I don't replace hardware that often and that is why that stupid Sandisk drive failing due to their crap QC annoys me. As time progresses these companies are making NAND with lower and lower and lower endurance,to make NAND more affordable and are relying on their software systems to make sure the wear is even.

    Since I don't trust half these claims from companies(warranties are getting shorter and shorter for many SSDs),I take my usual conservative approach with things. Limit writes where I can,and make sure I have at least 20% to 25% of the drive free,ie,not overfill it with stuff.

    Then I don't need to care if I am hitting any limits,since it most likely means I am not!
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    Re: How can I reduce writes to my SSD?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Not really since my oldest SSD has lasted nearly six years(its still at 100%),and if you want to bog your SSD down with more crap,and waste more precious space be my guest,especially with the system one being 120GB!

    blah blah blah
    And I didn't bother with all of that waste of time crap and funnily enough I have had no problems either. Your system one being 120GB is irrelevant to the OP. The OP clearly stated that theirs is 500GB. You made no mention of your one being less than 1/4 of the size

    So, what is better advice:
    Person A who spent loads of time faffing and claims they have had no problems.
    Person B who suggested the faf free approach, also had no problems and actually pointed to the possible cause of the problem

    SSD advice on the internet is as bad as automotive advice in car clubs. Change the oil every 3000 miles, only using aircraft grade oil at £20 per litre even though you have a normal car and don't thrash it everywhere. Funnily enough you get the same response from those time wasters - "Well I did it from new and my 10 year old car's engine has been fine" Of course this conveniently forgets that everyone that just followed the manufacturers recommendations also had no problems

    I look at your sig and you have a brand new drive
    1. It's over 2 years old (just)
    2. My experience comes from Multiple SSD's in multiple PC's 64GB, 96GB, 120GB, 128GB, 256GB, 500GB and 1TB. You do realise that once a person has bought an SSD, they actually can upgrade at some point in the future - right
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    Re: How can I reduce writes to my SSD?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Not really since my oldest SSD has lasted nearly six years(its still at 100%),and if you want to bog your SSD down with more crap,and waste more precious space be my guest,especially with the system one being 120GB!

    If MS want their POS pagefile,I am not going to waste it on my SSD or any SSD. It can go on the spinny disk and do whatever it wants.

    Also due to the nature of some of the stuff I do Windows has this annoying way of still expecting to have a page file and sometimes using it - so I have always left it on a 7200RPM drive and it can do whatever it wants to do. Plus the only swap I will have on an SSD is the scratch file for some of the image editing stuff due to speed considerations,but I don't do that all the time so its not a real problem in terms of writes.

    I look at your sig and you have a brand new drive - I don't replace hardware that often and that is why that stupid Sandisk drive failing due to their crap QC annoys me. As time progresses these companies are making NAND with lower and lower and lower endurance,to make NAND more affordable and are relying on their software systems to make sure the wear is even.

    Since I don't trust half these claims from companies(warranties are getting shorter and shorter for many SSDs),I take my usual conservative approach with things. Limit writes where I can,and make sure I have at least 20% to 25% of the drive free,ie,not overfill it with stuff.

    Then I don't need to care if I am hitting any limits,since it most likely means I am not!
    I have the exact same drive as the OP, and while I have a little lower power on time, my writes are at 6.7 TB. My pagefile has always been on the SSD, as this is definitely the recommended place for it:

    https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/e7/...-state-drives/

    Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

    Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.

    In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that


    Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,

    Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.

    Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.


    In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.

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    Re: How can I reduce writes to my SSD?

    I am inclined to blame the ethereum mining I did for a couple of months early this year. I will find out when and if I decide to try it again.

    Currently Edge has written 17gb and chrome about 6gb. Not great, but not as bad as the maths above would predict. That's I think about 2 days uptime.
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