The Best Bios Update

[Eduardo]

Hi… I bought one combo with a Abit IP35 Pro Off-Limits + Intel C2D E8200 Rev. C0 and would like to know which best the bios for mine case.

Thx very much and I wait reply

[kater-acme]

I have IP35 (not Pro) + E8200 and I'd recommend the latest official bios for your mobo. For me it would be 18. Also, I'm positive you can get the latest modded bios (for E0 CPUs like E8400 and R0 CPUs like PDC E6300) and it will run perfectly OK. E8200 C0 is a pretty old CPU (albeit still a v good piece) and when it was released (2006 I believe) Abit was very much alive & kicking and they included the CPU in their official bioses). If, for some reason, your mobo has an earlier bios and still works OK with the CPU, and you don't feel like flashing it (say, for safety reasons) you don't have to upgrade. It may also happen that your mobo works with the CPU, but doesn't have certain features (like 0,5 multipliers or EIST or gives faulty temp readings) - that would mean you need a fresher bios.

[Eduardo]

Hi kater... ty for the reply... Well... I have a problem with the temperature reading, therefore I think very stranger a C2D E8200 to be with 50º in idle. What you think?

Thx

[Terbinator]

The Penryn Core 2's (E8xxx) series wasn't released until late 2007 early 2008.

[Eduardo]

Then, which would be the best version to use

[BUFF]

try the EO stepping beta http://www.abitshop.eu/bios/m629b_18.bin

[kater-acme]

It's a common problem with E8200 chips - lots of them have faulty temperature sensors. I have an E8200 that reads 46 in idle. My friend, too. And we both have IP35 mobos. Other people from forums - same thing. So a new bios will probably not help - I have 18 beta. My CPU starts going over 46 only if I load it with Orthos or Linx.

But don't worry - it's only a faulty sensor, not the chip itself. It's perfectly safe if you have a decent, working cooler. E8200 are v cool processors so don't worrt.

[Eduardo]

Then... I think that i go change the motherboard... because i like make overclock... and i think very danger use a mb which have problem with temps.

[Theo_Rehtisch]

"It's a common problem with E8200 chips - lots of them have faulty temperature sensors"

AFAIK this is nothing but rumors, them have never been confirmed by anyone.

If so many people have the same "problem" maybe it isn't a problem at all, but normal...

[kater-acme]

To have 46 C in idle, with Ninja (proper mounting, no pushpins) + 120mm fan? C'mon... And it's not only on Abit boards.

[Theo_Rehtisch]

1. 46°C are quite usual (with any cpu), also when using a very good cooler like the Ninja - and mainly & in my opinion the 46°C are believable.

2. If there would be "faulty temperature sensors": How come that the temperatures on high load are so much more "believable", even by (most) of them who assume theese faulty sensors?

3. In most cases it's not the sensor which is faulty. In most cases the board (resp. the software) interprets the signals in a wrong way. Often this can be fixed with a BIOS update.

Be aware that the temperatures are not "delivered" by the sensors in absolute (degree) values - to simplify it all the software only can read out a ratio value & re-interpret it in real & absolute values.

For example most Abit boards which supported the FSB1333 E0-CPUs (or have all proper boards have been affected? I'm not quite sure, but me personally I've experiences with the IX38, IX48 & the IP35-Series) show "astronomical" temperatures when using the last official BIOS version. With the last beta for E0-CPUs this problem (apparently) is solved, the temperatures shown are quite more "believable". So in fact the "delivered CPU data" is interpreted different (or may be it's even read out in a different way), and in result we have abundantly clear different temperature values.

Nevertheless still there were differences between the CPU temperature shown in the uGuru software & them which are shown for example by CoreTemp or RealTemp. But this is a very well known issue, nothing to worry about.

What's meant with all theese words: In my opinion & seen from my experience you can belive in the temperatures shown by CoreTemp or RealTemp (usage of the last official version assumed). But: Wether theese temperatures are actually the truth nearly no one knows - only them who use sepacial equipment & who have de-mounted the heatspreader in order to put a measure sensor on the die... ;-)

What tool do you use to read out the temperature(s)?