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    Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    I got stuck again today... on my own drive. It's about a... 1 in 4 million angle.. ie none. and I couldn't get up it.

    I got out and studied the tyre tracks.

    235/40's were never meant for snow, clearly, but it's the fact that they have no real cross groves that stood out.

    I did get out today... did 200 miles to Essex and back to Bucks.. M25 was clear and nice, but A41 back to bucks was hell. Part slush, part ice, part snow, part tarmac...

    It was while I was in Essex that I took a good look around lots of different tyres on different cars.

    Here's what I, unsuprisingly, found.

    The narrow stuff tyres you find on little hatchbacks have lots of blocks of rbber and have no definde grooves around their circumferance.

    Look at this 165 pirelli (it'd just an example of the general pattern)


    Now, that has as many grooves going ACROSS the tread as going around it.

    Now check out a large 235 continental


    With the exception of the edges, it has minimal left to right grooves. In fact it's prolly the reason why letting my tyres down from 36 to 24 made a difference to pulling away.. it allowed the centre to flex inward and the outter tread did a job. My own ones, are worse than this picture.

    This is prolly not a revelation in anyone's eyes but it IS worth thinking about before you make a banana of yourself trying to get somewhere that a little Ka has done in one go, in your large saloon.

    If anyone has any photo's of their own tyres and what they're like in this snow it would help.

    All I know is that I cant accelerate or break at all but I can steer a tiny bit.

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    re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    I'll try and remember to take a picture of mine tomorrow Zak. They are really skinny on the iQ and they've been fantastic so far. Good traction, good grip, good braking. Not had any issues at all
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    re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    I'll try and remember to take a picture of mine tomorrow Zak. They are really skinny on the iQ and they've been fantastic so far. Good traction, good grip, good braking. Not had any issues at all
    wish I'd got one of those this week. It's been an expensive week and will get more expensive yet.

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    re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    I used to have Toyo Proxy tyres on my Mazda as they seem to give me the best overall grip in bad weather (God knows I needed it in that thing)

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I used to have Toyo Proxy tyres on my Mazda as they seem to give me the best overall grip in bad weather (God knows I needed it in that thing)

    that tread pattern has always been good.. old Pirellie's used ot have that too.. great tyres.

    I can imagine those being ok in snow too, but n ot too good at disipating the snow under braking....

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    what you need is a tread like this

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Stopped at my parents earlier and grabbed the land rover for a quick mission, fitted with BFGoodrich all terrain. Tread pattern is like this

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Mega deep tread as well, for clearing rain. But they work great on snow too.

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability



    The 172's running the A539 (195/45/R16 iirc) and the only time I was stuck was because of sheet ice under the front wheels.

    The back end has gone out a couple times on slow corners but there's very little tread left until the minimum mark. Fronts have a good chunk of tread and almost never step out.

    Not sure if it's the tyres but slush is the only major problem I've had with them. It just wants to keep sliding...

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 225/45/r17s here, and no problems



    Wacking great grooves on the inside edge

    (and pure luck that the photo has exactly the right size )

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Il have a look at my fiesta tomorrow but its been dissapointing so far. Got stuck just outside my house earlier and had to get a neighbour with a spade to help me get rid of some of the ice. Eventually after about an hour of trying a 4 x 4 stopped and towed me to the top of the hill. Which i think is going to be my cars new home until all this clears.

    I think im gunna need some new tires... added too the the new washer water spray pump which seems to have died this weather aint cheap!

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Yeah I noticed this too, the Ka in front of me was having no trouble, me in my monster Civic, it was truely terrifying! What makes it worse, as Shad may have noticed also, is that many people round Newbury don't know how to drive in these conditions.

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    I think I may be cheating

    They look a lot like this....


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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    My car is hopeless in the snow, I've been stuck for days now.

    I've got the stock tyres on, which are pretty much summer tyres: Bridgestone Potenza 225-45-18-W.

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    The Integra is surprisingly good in these conditions, which is surprising considering its normally flummoxed by a bit of rain. Although I suspect its more to do with the LSD than the Bridgestone RE010's, I would describe them as Extreme Summer Tyres.

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    Re: Go and study your tyres for snow suitability

    Quote Originally Posted by [DW]Cougho View Post
    The Integra is surprisingly good in these conditions, which is surprising considering its normally flummoxed by a bit of rain. Although I suspect its more to do with the LSD than the Bridgestone RE010's, I would describe them as Extreme Summer Tyres.
    Having not driven my Civic in the snow I can't say whether my Quaife diff makes any difference or not. Either way I'll check tomorrow what I've got on the front and try & post a pic.

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