Cor- good idea.
you'll want THOSE fitted the right way around
Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
Seems good in theory, but surely a just throwing extra camber on cars in what I'm guessing is a one size(well; camber) fits all kind of arrangement isn't a great idea. I'm sure some cars would appreciate a bit extra, but many would be awful to drive afterwards. Some might even suffer suspension damage if it's to extreme. Of course that's all assuming a straight swap with normal tyres. Someone who knows what they're doing adjusting the suspension to work with the tyres then, maybe.
On the believe it when I see it pile for now I think. Throwing extra camber on a standard road car with no other adjustments seems about as sensible as cut springs to me atm.
If this tire does what it says, then we will see it on production cars. MPG is the new key marketing figure, and anything that can help that will be adopted by manufacturers, especially if it is as simple as changing the tires and perhaps adjusting the drive set up a little.
I think it's mainly to compensate for cars that have had camber induced by out of spec third-party lowering. In such a case it's a good idea, and perhaps if it's available then some cars could be designed with camber to take advantage of them. But for normal cars or cars designed for normal tyres I don't see how it's a good thing.
Is this another number to go on the tyre measurement ?
My car has a 2% camber on the back wheels as standard, so i'll need 215/45/17/2 tyres for the 2% camber ?
Surely there would be too many combinations with the %age amounts of camber you could have for the limited number of vehicles that have the camber... then again people pay 25% more for tyres that increase your fuel efficiency by 2%. Or 50% more because the manufacturer couldn't be bothered including a spare and they can't be bothered changing it when they get a puncture - jk
System:Atari 2600 CPU:8-bit 6507 (1.19MHz) RAM:128 bytes Colours: 16 (4 on screen) Resolution: 192x160Originally Posted by The Mock Turtle
Never heard of camber measured as a percentage. Percentage of what - a complete revolution? Think there's a measurement system for that already
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Anyway, I'm still not convinced, but here's an interesting piece with Jay Leno and the creator: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras.../camber-tires/
That guy stands with negative camber built in!
They use mm for tyre width in the states too? I'm impressed
And good point -they're cones. They won't travel in a straight line
Jay's race driver seemed impressed.
I would be really interested to see some proper testing of these though. Unless the guy's licensing is stupid, I guess we'll know if they do what they say when other manufacturers start selling them and manufacturers start fitting them.
Doh ! Degrees - don't know where %age came from - i'm getting on my memory's not what it used to be
The video clip is interesting but still doesn't answer (for me anyway) what you mentioned earlier - what happens with real heavy cornering - not American cornering - what they call rough roads with tight bends is what we call the M6.
From the diagram the only thing I think is that when cornering hard it will be the outer side wall which is the larger of the two which will be compressed. The advantage being that until (and including) that point you have full contact, whereas with normal tyres on a camber it's only at that point where you get full contact ?
System:Atari 2600 CPU:8-bit 6507 (1.19MHz) RAM:128 bytes Colours: 16 (4 on screen) Resolution: 192x160Originally Posted by The Mock Turtle
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