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    Wrc 2011

    I know the 2 litre cars are retired for next year and that they're going to be running turbo 1600s, but does anyone know if they'll be "showroom" models in as much as the outgoing cars look like C4s Focuses etc?

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    Yeah, the C4 is now a C3 and the Focus now a Fiesta from memory. Pistonheads have had a few snaps of the cars from the Paris motorshow I think.

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    They're just smaller hatchbacks for 2011.








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    Re: Wrc 2011

    Can't see how the hell this is gonna cut costs but the DS3 does look good...still can't understand why they decided to use the Countryman version of the Mini though...

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    I'm not sure it was cost cutting Jon - probably more like what they did in MotoGP & F1.. it was just getting too nuts, so down with the CCs, make em work harder for the horsies.

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    it is all cost cutting. The cars should now be more easy and cheaper to run and develope.
    Engine costs have reduced aswell.

    Quotes now saying it's possible to get a car running for 300K, which is cheaper than many S2000 cars that have been developed. Some WRC cars were costing around 1 Mill each acording to the article below a few years ago.
    Reading the spiel about it their hopeing to attract 6 manufacturers to the championship with the rule changes.


    http://www.wrc.com/news/features-arc...t-two/?fid=840
    http://www.wrc.com/news/features-arc...t-two/?fid=840

    Why have you brought in the new regulations?
    It's all about growing the sport and a desire to see more manufacturer participation. We brought the regulations in because in 2006 top end WRC cars were costing close to a million Euros each to build and a considerable amount more to maintain. Of course this figure drops once the initial research and development costs have been paid. But anybody wanting to join the WRC and start from scratch would need well over one million Euros - that's over the top and a huge barrier for new teams and manufacturers.

    The cost of competing at WRC level was beyond the means of privateer teams too. There's nothing to prevent anybody sitting down with a particular brand of car and deciding to contest the WRC. What we're saying is we've got to make it affordable. The object of the exercise is to widen as much as we can the opportunities for people to contest the WRC at the top end.

    How much will a new WRC car cost?
    Our target is 300,000 Euros including the kit and ready to roll. The difficulty is that some people will be tempted to drive their completed car straight to a specialist engine builder or competition team and they'll spend another 200,000 Euros fettling the thing. It probably won't go any faster but they'll feel good about it. Now we'll never stop people spending money - that's a fact of life - but our objective is to ensure the person who spends the extra money doesn't have a car that's any more competitive than the other guys. We want to keep it equal so money isn't what determines the winner.

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by jon bda View Post
    Can't see how the hell this is gonna cut costs but the DS3 does look good...still can't understand why they decided to use the Countryman version of the Mini though...
    Having a read up on the regs might reveal why - the car has to be longer than 4 metres (which is why they put that huge bum on the 206 WRC)

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    Re: Wrc 2011

    The Fiesta's been run in the local rally championships in UAE for the past year and proved to be quite robust (the wheel arches on the things reminded me of a cathedral vault they where so high, mind you looking at the tracks they where running on it was a good job).

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