£105 poorer

[Russ]

but at least i have car tax for today. makes me angry that ii have to fork out money when loads of idiots on the roads havent got tax though

[Skeps]

Yeah me too, it probably works out cheaper if you have no insurance or road tax if you get caught anyhow, the amount you will get fined is less than the bloody tax etc......not that I would lower myself to go driving without any of them, thats just plain dumb

[Rave]

Nowadays the only way to evade paying tax is to not register your vehicle at all- and that's a pretty serious offence IIRC. Otherwise the DVLA know from their database as soon as a car's tax expires and SORN is not declared.

I hate paying car tax too; my car is 45cc or so over the lower limit so I get hit for the full £165 and I only do about 3000 miles a year. I reckon they should just put it all on fuel duty- that way the amount you pay is proportional to the number of miles you do.

Rich :¬)

[TiG]

Heh you must be stupid to suggest that Rave, Fuel prices going up affects the price of everything else. Food, luxury goods everything!!!. its a sure way of making everything more expensive putting more duty on fuel.

Its tax like everything else. I wish i didn't have to pay income tax but i do

TiG

[Ravens Nest]

I think they should just get rid of road tax as we nearly all have to use the roads anyway, whether by bus, car, or bike.

Just put it into income tax, and then even they car tax dodgers have to pay it.

But i do think the MOT is a very good idea to keep the roads safer, so keep that and just enforce it more (i.e. have a badge or disc like road tax) if your caught without one then the maximum fees and/or jail sentence to go with it apply.


To be honest i feel that all taxes should be axed and all we pay comes straight out of take home, and then all the money left is ours and then we will all know how much tax we pay and it will stop the stealth taxing that the Labour government loves so much..

Perhaps things would then be more above board.

[Zak33]

Tax disks were originally thought of simply to confirm, yearly, that people had Insurance, and an MOT if needed. SInce then it has become a good way to convinve people into more efficient cars.

I would sincerely like Road Fund License to be put onto Fuel.....if you are on the road more, you use more fuel, and you pay more.

Simple.

But we would still have to have a "disk" or similar to be sure people were insuring and MOTing their car

Nil effect

[Ravens Nest]

Yeah there isnt really a way around having a disc in your vehicle.

They could have an MOT disc that needed renewing and then you had 7 days to get it insured after that date with a phone number to ring when you had insurance and you quoted an insurance number.
(Or something like that)

Or be insured every year but have 7 days to produce your MOT.
(The problem with that is most insurance is phone & internet based.)

Allowing you to look around for the best deal, and also keeping the roads a bit safer with cars that are insured via MOT.

Imagine the police spotting a vehicle with an out of date MOT disc, that means they are not insured and can then have the book thrown at them, and no road tax hurrah!

[slugs]

Car in tomorrow living in hope it passes. Think i needs front pads and front tyres are borderline. And ive got one of those expensive clunks from the suspention just at the wrong time.

It ran out on the 3rd Sept last year. And got loads of pain from the postoffice when i went to get tax. So this year i waiting until I could get a test date and am taking it in with a Full year on the mot.

Last year they managed to do me for 585 quid and that was for the service mot and front pads. Guess thats what you get for having a Lexus and the sub 20mpg and the rwd fun

[Rave]

Heh you must be stupid to suggest that Rave, Fuel prices going up affects the price of everything else. Food, luxury goods everything!!!.

Oh no, so the price of a tin of beans goes up by 1p. I couldn't give a monkeys TBH, I'd still come out a LONG way ahead. The ease of transporting stuff is just bad for the environment, if it wasn't so cheap to ship goods all over the country maybe the supermarkets would look towards more efficient local supply lines and we'd have fewer lorries clogging up our roads. All for the sake of a few pence on your weekly shop. Stupid, yep that's me.

Its tax like everything else. I wish i didn't have to pay income tax but i do

I'm very proud to pay my income tax, and I'd be glad to pay a lot more if it meant that I didn't have to worry about the myriad other taxes this government puts on everything.

From the Inland Revenue's own website:

Today, over 50,000 people are employed directly by the Board of Inland Revenue, but many times that number work in various areas of taxation around the country. They include tax advisers, accountants, lawyers and their support staffs, and they are represented by various professional bodies who work with the Inland Revenue to clarify and simplify tax matters.

If they removed every tax apart from Income Tax, Corporation Tax and, I suppose, duties on booze/fags/imports etc., then think about how many of those thousands of people could be employed doing something more useful.

Rich :¬)