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About LinkBacksShow me a car that uses plain foodstuffs as fuel, and I'll agreeOriginally Posted by kalniel
If that was the case, cars would run on legs not wheels
Show me a car that uses plain foodstuffs as fuel, and I'll agreeIf that was the case, cars would run on legs not wheels
Show me a car that uses plain foodstuffs as fuel, and I'll agree
AlmostIf that was the case, cars would run on legs not wheels
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kalniel (30-05-2014)
Lithium Polymer is only a problem, in the same way Nuclear is, if they are not disposed off properly. As long as nobody actually disposes of the batteries, and they are kept somewher until we advance our recycling enough to process them properly, they won't be a problem. And of course, keeping an eye on how much raw material there is available to make the batteries etc etc.
But i wonder what Tesla thinks of Zero Motorcycle's battery technology, that's apparently super clean.
I think you miss understand me, I'm suggesting that having a tank of hydrogen isn't great, but neither is having LiPols. Energy is a hard thing to store, it doesn't like to be trapped.
Zero Motorcyle? http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/eu/technology They use LiIon? That is what Tesla use.
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Strange, the Jay Leno video (which I now can't find) where he looks at the 1st gen bike from 2009, the CTO of Zero talks about the battery technology and how it uses some sort of salt compound that was safe enough to eat. No mention of LiIon. Maybe they've switched over.
I had a mate years back whose dad was working on some kind of Sodium based batteries. Incredibly safe until they exploded, then they demolished buildings! There's a lot of different aspects to battery safety, of which environmentally friendly disposal is actually a relatively small factor. To drive a vehicle at any kind of speed - or at least to accelerate it to it - takes a significant relase of energy very quickly. It's incredibly hard to manage that kind of power output safely, while also storing enough energy to keep a vehicle moving for any reasonable length of time at a more sedate rate. AFAIK Battery technology hasn't seen any real process or technology enhancements for quite a while....
Just got back from my Tesla test drive
Tesla Model S - Quick review
9/10
Everything great as I expected.
Speed, acceleration and handling are fun attributes whether your car makes noise or not. Instant, constant full torque is great to have on tap.
Front of cabin is great, no changes needed, good seats. Not luxury, but very quiet and functional. Touchscreen controls everything, very bright & responsive.
Rear seats are "ok", but it's the only part of the car that feels like a corner has been cut, they feel a bit cheap and could be improved. Rear headroom is ok up to 6'. Then again, I wasn't in the back long enough to test long-distance comfort.
Will be pre-ordering the Model E, no hesitations. Rep confirmed it should be ~BMW 3-series sized & ~£30k
So basically in an accident thanks to your choice of vehicle power you can be:
Blown up by batteries
Burnt to death by hydrocarbons
Frozen to death or asphyxiated by liquid nitrogen
Hate to think what a flywheel that gets loose could do
Makes nuclear power seem quite safe
Yep, but LiPol is not a problem until the end of a battery's life, so as long as the companies are very responsible about receiving the old batteries back and warehousing them until the recycling progress gets good enough. No problem. Or less of a problem.
Engadget have a play with one of these.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/08/t...ht-hand-drive/
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Engadget have a play with one of these.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/08/t...ht-hand-drive/
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Apart from the reviewer getting his W/mi consumption (316) mixed up with his range (178), not bad.
Autocar review here:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...t-drive-review
I can't help thinking that the Tesla could be by far the best vehicle in the world and the majority of people still wouldn't want one because they are so set in their ways and electric power is different. It took diesel a long time to take off even with an almost identical useage to petrol and massive tax incentives on top of the fuel economy it offered if you did enough miles.
If the government gave every teenager old an electric push-bike to play with (once they have completed the free CBT training) then electric vehicles just might get acceptable to the next generation.
I used to think that alternative fuels was the answer as opposed to electric cars. But having read a lot about the Tesla cars recently and seeing the progress that is being made in battery technology (granted most of these innovations are yet to hit production) and the reduction in cost/increase in performance of solar panels, I can't help thinking that it won't be too long before I would be considering an electric car as well as some panels on my roof to help run it.
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