Sporty Coupes.........

[[GSV]Trig]

Theres nowt wrong with the 4x4 system tbh, the fault lies with vauxhall who didnt put anything in the manuals about how to look after the damned thing so it got itself a bad reputation...
As for 300bhp callys doing 14.1 bests then I suggest that they dont let there mums drive the 1/4
How many Fiat Coupes are 15 years old?
By the time there that old I'm sure theres gonna be plenty of horror stories about them like there are with the Cally's

[weebroonieuk]

guy i worked with ended up selling his calibra coz of the carry on he had ended up before the gearbox spewed its last cog he had to get it running on fwd only the transfer box was a disgrace plus the torque was biased to the front i mean come on u dont make a 200bhp engine with a 6 speed box and 4wd and put more power through the front wheels when everyone else is doing 50/ 50 or 60/40 to the rear wheels

i liked the calibra i bought one for my first car (2.0 16v red top ) plan was to buy it as i had alot of cash at the time so i didnt spend the cash and wait till i found the right coupe but it got stole on christmas eve last year and found burnt out in some old farm or something so i was gutted and they hit me with a shocking payout so i took it on the chin and bought myself the car i had wanted since i first saw it unveiled in 93

[Stoo]

weebroonieuk.. chap, can you please put some punctuation in your posts?
They're very hard to read as is..

ta

[Zak33]

the transfer box was a disgrace

Let me be the first to say, you dear chap are on very thin ice.

We have a resident Vauxhall 4x4 expert going by the name of Doll.

Now worked for Vauxhall the entire time that 4x4 system was going, sold lots of them and I agree we had lots of stress with them.

But, it seems, its strong as an ox, just needs TLC.

[[GSV]Trig]

guy i worked with ended up selling his calibra coz of the carry on he had ended up before the gearbox spewed its last cog he had to get it running on fwd only the transfer box was a disgrace plus the torque was biased to the front i mean come on u dont make a 200bhp engine with a 6 speed box and 4wd and put more power through the front wheels when everyone else is doing 50/ 50 or 60/40 to the rear wheels

50/50 or 60/40, nice, or how about you do it the Vuax way with a viscous coupling so the power varies from front to back and ends up where its needed, not only that why dont you set it up so when ur breaking it disengages the TXB to help the handling of the car, hardly a crappy system, like I said, IF LOOKED AFTER...
All of the Cav and Cally Turbo's I know personally have been looked after and still have working 4x4 and some are on over 140,000 miles....
I welcome your opinion, this is the internet, your entitled to it but when your cars as old as mine and done as many miles then we can do a like for like comparison, until then u telling me how on your entire forum theres been less than 5 engine failures is kinda pointless

[weebroonieuk]

How am I on thin ice ? We can't state opinions and things I have heard from owners ? If that's the case why do we have a forum ? And you also say you had alot of stress with them so whats the problem ? Or do you own a Vauxhall and noone can bring them down unless they own one (which I have)

Most 4wd systems use a viscous coupling and have done for many moons, and I've read many times that they are biasd towards the front if it could point the power to the wheels with the most grip. If that was the case it would have a sytem to rival the skyline and the mitsubishi active yaw control etc.

And the reason I stated that the coupe forum had less than 5 engine failures was because it was pointed out that fiats are terrible for reliability and the old faithfull fix it again tony joke , carefull not to dis a car or you may well be here next to me on this piece of thin ice !

Out of all the cars that are on the coupe forum then I think for the time I has been running around 5 knackered engines is rather good, considering the amount of halfwits that have no clue about cars internals and how to look after them; and who get a bit excitied with there new bleed valve etc.

[Moby-Dick]

oh my mate with the nissan 200 his was never ending with problems engine rebuilds and other stuff i never took much interest what happened in detail but i dunno if it was a private garage or a nissan garage that couldnt get a hold of parts for him

what exactly are you trying to proove here ?

S13 200SX's are on average 12 years old - any car that old is going to need a little TLC , especially once you start playing with it.

In terms of "the cream of the crop" I'm aafriad 476 BHP through the front wheels is no match for 600+ through the rear ones ( on race fuel - he is a distributor for Klotz fuels)

http://www.sxoc.com/site/rides/ride.php?Member_ID=112

not bad for a 1.8

the problem with the S13 engine is that most mechanics seem to be complete numpties when it comes to working on them - Thankfully the SXOC has a well vetted list of those the *are* and those that *arn't*

[[GSV]Trig]

most 4wd systems use a viscous coupling and have done for many moons and ive read many times that they are biasd towards the front if it could point the power to the wheels with the most grip if that was the case it would have a sytem to rival the skyline and the mitsubishi active yaw control etc

not on a bloody vaux thats 15 years old you wouldnt have, look how many skylines u sell comapired to the number of callys or cavs, skylines are the other end of the scale in comparison..

carefull not to dis a car or you may well be here next to me on this piece of thin ice !

I'll dis any car thats slower than mine, and they dont call me Jesus for nothing

...... halfwits that have no clue about cars internals and how to look after them and who get a bit excitied with there new bleed valve etc

Same problem with any modded car, the R5 has a bad rep as being unreliable, mainly cos most muppets wind the boost up with no thought for cooling or owt else and its soooo muich easier to put failure down to a manufacturer than to your own halfwittedness...
Theres people out there that think just cos the cavs n callys have 4wd n a turbo that there in the same league as cossies n stuff like that, there not, it was made as a motorway car, that doesnt stop our halfwitted friends turning the boost up and various other things, some tits even handbrake them which is just asking for the shaft to rip itself out of the box, but hey, who cares rite

[weebroonieuk]

lol i was givieng an example mate dont get all defensive the guy that owns it is a mate of mine he had alot of trouble with it and it went on for almost 2 month well i tell a lie .....
the bottom end went , so he put it into a garage while it was off the road he ordered a few toys for it like new rods and pistons and i think his crank was balanced and a new clutch amongst other minor details it was away for weeks
got it back and the internals went again and the garage messed about something awfull , although he did drive the car like he stole it so probably his own fault

a bit like another mate of mine who has had a lancie delta integrale and first its turbo went got a new bigger and better one then the head went got that sorted then his bottom end went now its sorted he is too scared to drive it and bought himself a new clio 182

like i said things go wrong with cars if you thing buying a certain make will help u avoid that u are mistaken things go wrong unfortunately

mines has been fine never broke down on me only thing i have had is when accelerating upto an just as u pass 140 things per hour the ecu wrning light would come on , lift off the gas then floor it again an it would go away ...

u will get the usual niggles like a noise appering from somewhere like wheel bearings or disc guard rubbing or a little rattle from interior trim which is soon solved by a quick screw tightening

[weebroonieuk]

thing is vauxhall could have made the calibra such a better car than they did it had all the ingredients just not mixed properly which is fair enough if they want to make there cars there own way then so be it but was a shame the slateings it got in magazines
especially when they put it head to head as u said with cossies and the rest of the groub b spawn

oh the integrale had viscous coupling an there quite old now and im pretty sure the quattro came with a vc at some point

[Zak33]

are we all calm now ?

[Lowe]

We have a resident Vauxhall 4x4 expert going by the name of Doll.

Richie mate - Dolls our Brembo braking chap

[[GSV]Trig]

I was wondering about that

[Barakka]

...they also said they liked the fiats interior. Ive never seen inside one so i dont know.

There you go...

The Fiat Coupe is majorly overlooked, a pinifarina(sp?) designed beauty... IMO Looks wise it's like Marmite, you either love it or hate it. And it's definately an enthusiasts car, any Fiat is, if you want to keep them running in tip-top condition. The 2.0 20v turbo is very pricey to run, with it's engine-out cam belt changes and tuning wise it's starting to get more and more available for it.

The Golf GTi - agreed... since when is a Golf a coupe ?

The 200, only been in one and it was pretty decent (and fast) quite highly tuned, but the owner said he'd spent over £3000 in repairs in the last 12 months... but hey tumble had a window fall out of a Punto on him.... there will always be lemons.

The Astra (IMO) is a bit of a wannabe, looks too much like it's trying desperately to be taken seriously.

The Calibra - only been in one but WOW - the guy that had it got an M3 after it and longed for the Calibra back... his Calibra IIRC was a works one with 2.8 turbo 4x4 - BEAST.

Think my favourite Sporty Coupes (looks/spec wise as i've never been in either) would be the BMW 850CSI and the Nissan 300ZX

[Butuz]

Yay someone with some sense! *raises glass to Barakka*

Yes i can see why they like the fiat interior over the 200sx one, the fiat ones got some colour in it and nice dark red purpley carpets. The 200sx has black dash, black buttons, black seats, black doors, black carpets and black dials for good measure, though you could get cream leather if you wanted which breaks it up a bit.

Regarding 200sx reliability - if you actually look after them, they wont go far wrong, run them on optimax, frequent oil changes every 3-6000 miles with good silicone oil, let the car idle for 30 seconds after starting, and let the car idle for 1 minute when stopping, will keep the car going on forever, like mine which i just cracked 140,000miles the other week. If you tune them properly they are just as reliable, but if you do not pay attention to breathing, cooling or fueling, your in for trouble, and if you combine poor tuning with not looking after them as above, your in for a world of brake downs and engine rebuilds, which i would assume is similar to the fiat.

I can see you favour the larger cars Barakka, the 300zx is a bit of a beast, and not particularly good to tune, like the misu GTO and the supra, theyre big, heavy, lumbering slightly and they need alot of power to make them really fast. No idea of the BMW tho never seen or been in one

I cant wait to have a ride in Trigs cally if we ever meet up.

Nice to get this thread back on track with intelligent convo, as opposed to "my mate said this, or i read blahblah in max power, or i once heard an old wives tale about this"

Butuz

Butuz

[Vimeous]

850csi