End to London day travelcards

[AGTDenton]

On the times I've gone to London this has been the most convenient ticket to get, no need to worry about getting lost.

More & more London is just a no go zone for people living outside.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66268315

[Ttaskmaster]

"TfL can no longer afford" to fund the £40m Travelcard Agreement "which represents a subsidy by Londoners".

In that case London can go stuff it's head up it's own sewer system and choke on it, especially the Lee and Tideway tunnels, since those represent a substantial subsidy by Outsiders...
Things like this work both ways, and London usually comes out better off.

[Jonj1611]

Can't help but agree wit you there. I don't bother going anymore, trains are stupidly expensive from where I am. Driving you get penalised and now if I drove, parked nearer and got the train I wouldn't benefit from the travelcard now

[Jonatron]

This is a bit confusing, paper travelcards are more expensive than the PAYG daily cap, yet they're saying it'll make TfL money.
Then I remembered the diamond geezer blog would almost certainly explain, and he did!
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2...ravelcard.html
"This is reducing convenience to raise revenue, pure and simple."
Yeah if I was outside London, I'd find it very convenient to have the London travelcard add-on to a train ticket. It's pretty confusing to have to remember to use paper at the London terminus, then switch to contactless or oyster, then switch back to paper again to leave London.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This is a bit confusing, paper travelcards are more expensive than the PAYG daily cap, yet they're saying it'll make TfL money.
Then I remembered the diamond geezer blog would almost certainly explain, and he did!
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2...ravelcard.html
"This is reducing convenience to raise revenue, pure and simple."
Yeah if I was outside London, I'd find it very convenient to have the London travelcard add-on to a train ticket. It's pretty confusing to have to remember to use paper at the London terminus, then switch to contactless or oyster, then switch back to paper again to leave London.

Its more expensive to get a return and Oyster than a Travelcard.

So if do a Zone 1 return and the return national rail ticket,it will cost more than the six zone travelcard!

But Khan is obsessed with ULEZ and is pushing it further in the south too.

[Iota]

So glad I don't live in South Ruislip anymore. Khan seems obsessed in screwing the wider London economy, then complaining that it wasn't his fault.

[OwP]

think its a bit of a pain, but hardly the end of the world. have been to London more in the past year than I ever had, and loved it. Theatres, restaurants, pubs, bars, breweries, all sorts. I use a paper ticket to get into LBridge then contactless

[Saracen999]

i would say I'll stop going into London then, but to be honest, it's a bit of an empty threat as i did that YEARS ago. Other than when required to for work, which hasn't been for a good 15 years since retiring (or semi-retiring), I haven't been "into" London in, oh, a good 20 years and no more than a handful of times in the decade or so prior to that. Note - by "into", i mean central or central-ish London. I do skim the outside edges by a mile or two on occasions, visiting a relative, but wouldn't do that by rail anyway and I'm not sure even ULEZ covers that, anyway.

I can sympathise with those that do, or want to, but personally, no skin in that game as I spent enough years working in central London to despise going in. And i'm a Londoner by birth, but sure as hell not by inclination.


EDIT - It turns out the area I visit is just inside the ULEZ zone, but the wife's car is exempt. On top of that, the relative I visit has sold his house and an offer on the replacement is going through, outside London - which pretty much removes the last reason I had to go into London.

I take OwPs point about theatres, restaurants etc but, personally, there's nothing in theatres I want to see badly enough to go in, and there's plenty of good restaurants outside. More tricky is museums and art galleries - though most of what's in museums that would appeal is stuff I've already done. Galleries, though .... that MIGHT provide sufficient inducement to go in, but if it does, we'll drive. So nothing has changed that means railway shemes or fares affect us, personally.

[Marcvs]

its just a way to raise average fair price and plug budget gaps, same as ULEZ

[AGTDenton]

A small U Turn by TFL & the government.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67206255

There will be a 3% increase in the new year

This was probably done for votes more than anything.

[Saracen999]

....

This was probably done for votes more than anything.

Call me a cynic (and more than a few have) but .... isn't that about the only reason almost all politicians get out of bed in the morning? It sure isn't their dedication to truth and public service, not least since most of them wouldn't recognise truth if it strode up to them and kicked them firmly and squarely in the family jewels.