I want that one!

[Moby-Dick]

bikes are great in a straight line

[Butuz]

I almost ran over one of them motorbike things the other day - the guy just wandered into the ouside lane without even looking. I guess he didnt expect me to be keeping with him, let alone overtaking him

As soon as i lifted off ready to brake he heared the dump valve he swung back in to the inside lane and put his hand up to appologise.

Thats the problem with bikes, theyre fast in a straight line, but slow round corners, and if you get lazy and make a mistake, you could die under a ton of nissan

Butuz

[kaillum]

I almost ran over one of them motorbike things the other day - the guy just wandered into the ouside lane without even looking. I guess he didnt expect me to be keeping with him, let alone overtaking him

what was he riding? almost guarantee you wouldn't be keeping up with me.. let alone trying to overtake

Thats the problem with bikes, theyre fast in a straight line, but slow round corners, and if you get lazy and make a mistake, you could die under a ton of nissan

ahhh.. you've obviously been watching the wrong riders if you think there slow round corners... couple of guys I ride with (both on 1000cc bikes) went off chasing a DB9 on Sunday.. guy tried his hardest to shake them.. down some very very twisty roads... until he gave up and let them past.. (both are very experienced riders with lots of track miles under their belt)

but I do agree that some of the riders are just that.. Lazy... they dont respect the machinary underneath them.. and as such end up like the proverbial dodo!

[Butuz]

Well it wasnt a moped and it wasny a ducatti thats about all i know about bikes

As for round corners, you need to have your knee on the ground to keep up with a fast car (i dont mean a saxo vtr btw), and 99% of riders dont do that on the roads, and i dont blame them they aint got much margin for error .

Butuz

[Rave]

As for round corners, you need to have your knee on the ground to keep up with a fast car (i dont mean a saxo vtr btw), and 99% of riders dont do that on the roads, and i dont blame them they aint got much margin for error

Yeah, and how many drivers can reliably correct oversteer without going through a hedge backwards? On twisty roads, bikes have the enormous advantage of being very narrow, which opens up their line choice a great deal. I've just spent an unfruitful half an hour trying to find Donington laptimes, but I'm pretty sure that ten or so years ago Scott Russell got his Kawasaki ZXR-750 round the Donington GP circuit in the wet in the same time (1:46ish) that a touring car would take in the dry.

[Moby-Dick]

impressive

my only worry is that if you end up on a bit of a hedge mission in a car, there is a pretty good chance you'll walk away. That chance is much slimmer on a bike ( unless you are like my other halfs brother, who is known as rubberbones by his bike club - he's brushed himself off and walked away from some pretty nasty accidents before.