When is a speed camera not a speed camera?

[poolking]

grizac, did you get a permit to exhume this thread? Its nearly 3 years old.

[dave87]

Holy Thread Revival Batman

Having said that, however, some of the points made are still worthy of note today, even if it is nearly three years old

[grizac]

Lmao, ok, I was looking on another thread and this came up as "similar", I didn't notice the date!!!

[dave87]

heh, we've all done that before (myself included )

[cv65user]

i agree that sppeed cams are more of a hazard since i noticed that when i see an illuminous yellow box i break and drop at least 20mph to the say 40mph limit, for the multiple lines.... only for then to find a dirty big 4 by4 5litre car up my 1.1L ass ... then it is flashing me coz i cant get back to 60mph as fast as they can ...stupid drivers

[Butcher]

Study the highways agency conducted found that motorways with speed cams had more accidents than those without. :/
Police patrols seemed most effective to prevent accidents.

From experience I'd say speed cams in stupid places cause more problems then they solve. And people always drive at silly speeds past cameras on major roads (one near me is a 70 cam, everyone does 55 past it grrrr).


Also grizac, 30.1 won't get you a fine - you're allowed 10%+2mph before they fine you (in theory, some people have been ticketed for less). Bear in mind though your speedo can be 10% out so stick to the limit on your speedo and you'll be fine.

[Nemeliza]

One problem i'm consantly having with speed cameras is that on seeing the things (where visible) im left gazing in all directions in an attempt to confirm what the speed limit for that section road is. They should put the speed limit on the back of the cameras and leave the background yellow so everyone is clear that they are passing 'speed monitoring road safety device' and are aware of the speed limit they should abide by.

[Butcher]

You should be paying attention to road signs enough to know what the speed limit is. It's NSL unless there are speed limit repeaters every few hundred metres.

[Nemeliza]

Indeed, however it doesnt stop me looking round for confirmation when travelling on unknown territory.

[Butcher]

This is the bonus of having satnav with speed cam database - you can always tell what speed limit on a cam is by looking at the satnav.

[Gr44]

You should be paying attention to road signs enough to know what the speed limit is. It's NSL unless there are speed limit repeaters every few hundred metres.

Not always NSL. If there is street lighting you should assume a 30 zone unless indicated otherwise.

Otherwise I believe you're right, however 40/50 zones out in the sticks dont tend to have repeaters too often due to the costs.

[Butcher]

Not always NSL. If there is street lighting you should assume a 30 zone unless indicated otherwise.

That is NSL.

Otherwise I believe you're right, however 40/50 zones out in the sticks dont tend to have repeaters too often due to the costs.

If there aren't repeaters the speed limit is unenforcable (i.e. NSL applies).

[Shorty]

Stick the limit or be like the guy who smashed into my car a week ago.

Driving @ 50 in a 40 zone. His split second lapse of contentration meant his hard braking wasn't enough to stop him hitting me. Had he been driving 10 miles an hour slower (ie the speed limit), his hard braking would have been enough.

Yes, admittedly he should not have taken his eyes off the road and been paying more attention but it does show the difference 10mph can make.

[Howard]

I didn't notice this thread was three years old until half way through But I wanted to mention anyway... Those of you who think it's "hard" to keep a car at 30mph.... Do you drive rocket-propelled cars with ultra-sensitive drive-by-wire throttles? Cos I sure as hell don't have any great difficulty!

Or does that make me a woman?

[Butcher]

It's very easy to keep a car at 30 unless you have the heaviest feet in the world TBH. I seriously wonder if some people think accelerators are binary - on or off and just jam it right to the floor all the time.

Stick the limit or be like the guy who smashed into my car a week ago.

Driving @ 50 in a 40 zone. His split second lapse of contentration meant his hard braking wasn't enough to stop him hitting me. Had he been driving 10 miles an hour slower (ie the speed limit), his hard braking would have been enough.

Yes, admittedly he should not have taken his eyes off the road and been paying more attention but it does show the difference 10mph can make.

It would probably help if people actually maintained sensible separation from the car in front. That said, stopping distance 40->50 is about half as much again which is obviously a BIG difference. It's amazing how much stopping distance increases for a relatively small increase in speed.

[Gr44]

That is NSL.

NSL is 60 on a single carrigeway or 70 on 2/3/4. I'm fairly certain?