Alarms

[dkmech]

I'd imagine so.

Btw, I also use a stoplock pro on my steering wheel. It seems to be less of a hassle than using the bulky disk ones. Interestingly one of the main issues when using a steering wheel lock is "where the hell to put it while you are driving so it doesn't slide on corners and try to bang its way through the side of a car". I settled for shoving it under the passengers seat from behind, which means it's quite far forward and my passengers keep thinking I carry midgets in my car on a regular basis. I haven't declared the wheel lock on insurance though. My thinking is - one time you don't use it the car gets stolen and they won't pay out. May consult them on this next year. Oh and I've got no things to press for my immobiliser, i believe its all inside a key - not had any inconveniences whatsoever.

[dave87]

Oh and I've got no things to press for my immobiliser, i believe its all inside a key - not had any inconveniences whatsoever.

That's how the HISS system on Honda Motorbikes works, so I'd imagine they have used something similar

[Agent]

Get a properly fitted CAT1 and you're sorted. Few of my mates have used clifford and raved about them.

This annoys me immensely.
“who fitted your alarm”
> “me”
“Sorry sir, it needs to be a professional fitter”
>”Despite the fact that I have numerous electronic / computing qualifications and can prove I could do this with my eyes closed?”
“yes”
Its utter utter BS. An alarm is one of the most simple electronic devices that you could deal with. Heck, our GCSE coursework at secondary school was based around a small scale one.
Thankfully I know a bloke who owns a garage and is more than happy to say they fitted it (even though I wouldnt let anyone near my bike electronics). So much less hassle.

There's actually five categories (well 6 sort of);

CAT 1 - Alarm & Immobiliser
CAT 2 - Immobiliser
CAT 3 - Mechanical (e.g. steering/handbrake lock)
CAT 4 - Wheel Lock
CAT 5 - Post Theft Device (e.g. Tracking device)

The other category is CAT 2-1 this is an upgrade device which upgrades a car fitted with a manufacturers fitted CAT 2 immobiliser to CAT 1 (Alarm & Immobiliser).

If you have a factory fitted immobiliser on your car this pdf will tell you if it's Thatcham approved (manufacturers rarely advertise it)
http://www.thatcham.org/security/pdf...gerCarCAT2.pdf

I had a CAT 2 Immobiliser fitted to my car after I bought it, found out 2 years later that the factory immobiliser was already CAT 2

Brilliant. Thanks very much.
So, do they have to be certified by thatcham themselves to be a “CAT1 alarm”, or provided I have an alarm that also has an immobiliser it automatically falls into CAT1?
Insurance companies seem to only like big name alarms, which is annoying. As cheaper and just as effective ones (sometimes cheaper and better) can be had.
I guess I just have to weigh up a better alarm for my bike vs a lower end alarm but cheaper insurance.

CAT3 is just a steering bar.

On a bike ?

[chuckskull]

Well most of my mates would have trouble working a kettle if their mum hadn't shown them tbh

It's often worth going for a big name for less hassle with insurance like you said.

[Barakka]

Yes, to get Thatcham CAT status the device must be tested and approved by Thatcham, so only certain makes/models are approved.

It has to be fitted by an approved installer as they have to give you a certificate to say it's Thatcham approved with the date it was fitted and the installers details on. This is what you need to send to your insurer to prove the device is fitted and approved.

dkmech - looking at the Thacham list the Prelude came with a pre-fitted CAT2 immobiliser and the alarm you listed was an Optional extra when the car was bought new. This is probably why the insurers only thought you had a CAT2.

[dave87]

CAT3 is just a steering bar.

On a bike ?

Disk Lock then

[Barakka]

On a bike ?

Bikes have their own classifications:

MC1 - Alarm Immobiliser
MC2 - Electronic Immobiliser
MC2->1 - Alarm Upgrade
MC3 - Mechanical Immobiliser
MC4 - Single Circuit - Electronic Immobiliser

[Agent]

Bikes have their own classifications:

MC1 - Alarm Immobiliser
MC2 - Electronic Immobiliser
MC2->1 - Alarm Upgrade
MC3 - Mechanical Immobiliser
MC4 - Single Circuit - Electronic Immobiliser

Ohhhh, you're good
Cheers mate

[dkmech]

dkmech - looking at the Thacham list the Prelude came with a pre-fitted CAT2 immobiliser and the alarm you listed was an Optional extra when the car was bought new. This is probably why the insurers only thought you had a CAT2.

No, it has no alarm. Just an immobiliser. Fitted as standard. And category 1.