Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread: Backing up data without the caddy..

  1. #1
    Lovely chap dangel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Cambridge, UK
    Posts
    8,398
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked
    459 times in 334 posts
    • dangel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • See My Sig
      • CPU:
      • See My Sig
      • Memory:
      • See My Sig
      • Storage:
      • See My Sig
      • Graphics card(s):
      • See My Sig
      • PSU:
      • See My Sig
      • Case:
      • See My Sig
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • See My Sig
      • Internet:
      • 60mbit Sky LLU

    Backing up data without the caddy..

    So I was a bit bored yesterday and just happened to have bought a 500GB SATA drive for backup my system (since I run the peril of RAID 0). I hadn't bought a caddy for it - my intention was to back up via USB. And then a thought occured to me (it has been known to happen):

    Why do I need it to be external?

    Answer: I don't. In fact, I don't want it to be at all - because USB 2.0 is dog-slow and then i've got a powerpack and cables to fuss around with.

    So, thinking about it - i'd rather use a SATA connector on my motherboard and have the drive installed internally. Ah - you say - but then you'll have it running all the time wasting power and wearing out that fat drive!
    But, of course, SATA does have one thing in common with USB - it's hot swappable.. So what if I made up a power lead which allowed me to switch power on/off to the drive at will? Well I did, and it works - wonderfully. So, now I can backup (without rebooting) just by flicking a wee switch on the front of my PC which powers the drive up and down - windows sees the drive appear/disappear etc.

    Possible downside - if the interface doesn't support 'unplugging' I could lose data should I power down during a write operation. This is mitigated by using NTFS though, as it's pretty good at coping with 'dirty' drives. nVidia-based controllers do, but the SiL controller (I have both) doesn't (or so it seems) on my motherboard.

    But all in all, it cost me a lot less than a caddy-based solution and is much (much) faster at backing up. Simple idea and not exactly brag-worthy but I thought I'd share it with you

    I'm calling it 'iSATA' lol
    Last edited by dangel; 08-05-2007 at 01:13 PM.
    Crosshair VIII Hero (WIFI), 3900x, 32GB DDR4, Many SSDs, EVGA FTW3 3090, Ethoo 719


  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Salisbury
    Posts
    170
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    6 times in 6 posts
    • hibby's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Supermicro C7Z87-OCE
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i7-4770
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsair DDR3 Vengeance LP 1600MHz (9-9-9-24)
      • Storage:
      • 256GB Samsung 840 Pro; 120GB OCZ Vertex 3; 1TB Samsung SpinPoint F1 HD103UJ; 250GB Seagate 7200.10
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD 7970 Vapor-X GHz
      • PSU:
      • 620W Corsair HX620
      • Case:
      • Antec P182
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Dell U2413; 24" Dell 2408WFP; 17" Dell 1704FPT
      • Internet:
      • Slow, rural broadband
    Disable write caching to it, and then you should be able to unmount it using the "Safely Remove Hardware" option on the taskbar.
    If you can't keep up, stick with reality...

  3. #3
    Lovely chap dangel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Cambridge, UK
    Posts
    8,398
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked
    459 times in 334 posts
    • dangel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • See My Sig
      • CPU:
      • See My Sig
      • Memory:
      • See My Sig
      • Storage:
      • See My Sig
      • Graphics card(s):
      • See My Sig
      • PSU:
      • See My Sig
      • Case:
      • See My Sig
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • See My Sig
      • Internet:
      • 60mbit Sky LLU
    Quote Originally Posted by hibby View Post
    Disable write caching to it, and then you should be able to unmount it using the "Safely Remove Hardware" option on the taskbar.
    Thanks for the tip - i'll give that a go. I'd just assumed it was because the controller didn't support it (my RAID array appears as 'removable' on the other one).
    Crosshair VIII Hero (WIFI), 3900x, 32GB DDR4, Many SSDs, EVGA FTW3 3090, Ethoo 719


  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    1,182
    Thanks
    133
    Thanked
    46 times in 45 posts
    dangel , That is a great 'idea' which I must try. -does away with the need for a caddy 'hot swap' system plus the drives can be left in place . -great idea

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    117
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    • artaxerxes's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte
      • CPU:
      • Intel
      • Memory:
      • Kingston
      • Storage:
      • Intel / Western Digital
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia
      • PSU:
      • Enermax
      • Case:
      • Lian Li
      • Operating System:
      • 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • Apple
    obviously it doesn't protect you against a cataclysmic hardware failure... but it certainly protects you against a single hard drive failure. I would suggest Raid Mirroring but your setup have the slender advantage that a PSU blow will not take out your backup drive (unless you are mid backup).
    artaxerxes
    INTEL THERMALRIGHT PANAFLO GIGABYTE KINGSTON OCZ NVIDIA CREATIVE MAXTOR LITE-ON ENERMAX LIAN LI APPLE RAZER SPEEDLINK JBL LACIE


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Backing up 4TB of data?
    By BlueMagician in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 20-01-2007, 12:14 AM
  2. ISP PlusNet Accidentally Deletes 700GB of Email
    By Tobeman in forum Networking and Broadband
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 19-08-2006, 08:53 PM
  3. Privacy concern - Scan orders being reported to 3rd parties.
    By Paranoid2000 in forum SCAN.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 09-06-2006, 07:35 PM
  4. Data Problem
    By xavxen in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 08-09-2005, 03:12 PM
  5. Data Recovery
    By LayZeh in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 04-08-2005, 11:00 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •