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    This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Total missed opportunity - possibly the most beautiful scene I've ever witnessed. An impossibly firey red sky (this - no pp) reflecting off the rocks and the yurts with a 180ยบ rainbow overhead and a yurt camp set out below. No tripod and I don't dare bump up the exposure any more for fear of camera shake :/ This is the best I could do - what was really called for was 30seconds at f8 and +2EV :/



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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Oooh, beautiful, and hats off for the camera work. I'm about 10 years behind you on camera skills.

    PS Where is the location? Derby?
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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Quote Originally Posted by MSIC View Post
    Oooh, beautiful, and hats off for the camera work. I'm about 10 years behind you on camera skills.

    PS Where is the location? Derby?
    Oi! It's clearly the red side of the Trent...

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    That can't be England!

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Thats some pretty impressive photos. Especially photo 3, looks like something out of National Geographic.

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    Lightbulb Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Quote Originally Posted by MSIC View Post

    PS Where is the location?

    Looks like the Moon t' me









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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Awesome shots - the sense of space is dumbfounding to us island-dwellers...

    I was about to ask if you had a RAW file of the first one when I noticed they were film scans - care to tell us what film stock you used?

    What happens if you try to push the exposure in either scanning or PP? (it's a strong candidate for a 16-bit colour multi-sampled scan)

    I've fiddled with this in RawTherapee, and it is possible to get something out of it - the limited colour-depth hurts, but this is what I got:

    Link to RT PP2 file, can be used to recreate this edit on a better original.

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    For those still guessing, these are from Mongolia - all from a trip to the Gobi desert near the border with China.

    MSIC - nowhere near 10 years ahead of you, I've only been shooting for 3

    colmo - I do have a RAW file actually - my scanner scans RAW. The problem is it's only a KM DualScanIV - that's an advanced scanner rather than a pro-scanner. The d-max is quite low - getting anything out of the shadows is tricky and even scanning at higher brighness doesn't help that much. The problem is serious underexposure - I simply needed a tripod. I'll certainly give it a re-scan once I'm done with my other 50(!) films, and maybe I'll drop it off at a pro-lab to give a better machine a go.

    This film is Kodak E100VS.

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Quote Originally Posted by brammers View Post
    For those still guessing, these are from Mongolia - all from a trip to the Gobi desert near the border with China.

    MSIC - nowhere near 10 years ahead of you, I've only been shooting for 3
    So not Derby then.

    Congrats though, these look great. I need to up my skillz.
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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Quote Originally Posted by brammers View Post
    colmo - I do have a RAW file actually - my scanner scans RAW. The problem is it's only a KM DualScanIV - that's an advanced scanner rather than a pro-scanner. The d-max is quite low - getting anything out of the shadows is tricky and even scanning at higher brighness doesn't help that much. The problem is serious underexposure - I simply needed a tripod. I'll certainly give it a re-scan once I'm done with my other 50(!) films, and maybe I'll drop it off at a pro-lab to give a better machine a go.
    I actually have both the Scan Dual II (anyone want it?) and the Scan Elite 5400 (recently invested in a Vuescan pro licence), so I'm fairly familiar with the range. Are you using the OEM software? If you have RAW from the scanner, I suspect you're using Vuescan too.

    Quote Originally Posted by brammers View Post
    This film is Kodak E100VS.
    I suspected it was Kodak (but not Kodachrome) - Fuji doesn't render purple/magenta/red quite that way.

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

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    I actually have both the Scan Dual II (anyone want it?)
    if it's going free, sure ...

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Yeah - Vuescan pro here too.

    How's the 5400? Is that the Mk I or II? I have to say I really like the Dualscan IV - if the slide is good then I can't really fault it - it only starts to slip up when you've got poor film to work with. It's a bit flakey - it doesn't like doing a lot of scanning in a row - it's a good idea to turn it off and restart VS once in a while or it'll jam... And it REALLY needs ICE. On the whole though I'm a fan.

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    It's the 5400 MkI - the Mk II was available only for a brief time, and for too much cash. ICE is the reason I upgraded from the Scan Dual II.

    Vuescan tranformed it - once I got the auto-exposure settings right (it was clipping highlights by default) and auto-white balance, it nailed the scan every time (provided focus is good). Using Vuescan means I feel it unnecessary to profile the scanner - it's close enough as is.

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    Re: This is not at all what this scene looked like

    Very nice, love the last two in particular.

    So were the bottom ones taken using tripods? and what kind of settings?

    sorry im a bit of a photography noob but trying to learn as i go along... trying to switch it to M but I always tend to spend far too long adjusting things and give up back to Auto :/

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